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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Honestly speaking, 50 million people shouldn't be living in a country this big. |
Agreed.
Yes korea is able to feed itself and so not technically overpopulated, but it is overpopulated in the sense that it is too crowded in terms of people, vehicles and infrastructure to be able to have a high quality of life. |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: |
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This must be a reference to population density then (people vs available space).
Then places like Singapore and Hong Kong also are overpopulated and cannot have a high quality of life since they both rank higher than Korea in terms of population density.
Korea does distance itself from both those places when put on a list of places with more than 10 million in population. However it remains quite close to the Netherlands, another small country with high density who must also be unable to have a ahigh quality of life. Taiwan would by that logic be a hellish place with no hope of any sort of quality of life as it stands higher than Korea in terms of density!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_population_density
By comparison, a place like Russia must be a haven and be on the top list of places that have the best shot of having a high quality of life as its territory is vast and it has far lower population density....
Great to know. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Ethan Allen Hawley wrote: |
| The OP poses a very good question, particularly with regard to farming. |
It is a very interesting question, and one could theorize on it endlessly.
Cleaning up the streets, farming cabbage, running a simple little restaurant and taking pride in your work. What spoiled Gangnam kid will want to do that?
In the US we already know what happened; fewer farmers, fewer little mom & pop shops, more cubes, more people who want to work Facebook/Google jobs which serve no purpose. Perhaps the same thing happens here with time?
Poster John Stamos Jr likes to steal seats from the adjumas on the subway, but I say show respect, they are the backbone of this country dammit!! 
What is going to happen when the adjumas are gone? |
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John Stamos jr.
Joined: 07 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| From my legitimately gotten seat on the subway: you're a troll chump. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Wonder why some think there is some relationship between quality of life and population density... |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| John Stamos jr. wrote: |
| From my legitimately gotten seat on the subway: you're a troll chump. |
Just drinking my morning coffee, posting on the internet, why so serious?
Regardless, good to see you here, she must not have beaten you senseless.  |
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John Stamos jr.
Joined: 07 Oct 2012
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| John Stamos jr. wrote: |
| From my legitimately gotten seat on the subway: you're a troll chump. |
Regardless, good to see you here, she must not have beaten you senseless. |
Your mom's always nice, amigo. |
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sluggo832004
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| Ethan Allen Hawley wrote: |
| The OP poses a very good question, particularly with regard to farming. |
It is a very interesting question, and one could theorize on it endlessly.
Cleaning up the streets, farming cabbage, running a simple little restaurant and taking pride in your work. What spoiled Gangnam kid will want to do that?
w respect, they are the backbone of this country dammit!!
What is going to happen when the adjumas are gone? |
Adjummas have way too much power. lol.
But when the ajummas are gone these young adults will have no one to tell them what to think. lol |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:49 am Post subject: |
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But when the ajummas are gone these young adults will have no one to tell them what to think. lol |
The next generation of ajummas will be different than the previous one, but they'll still be ajummas. Haven't you noticed how much power a young woman has over someone who is a year younger or started working at her workplace a year later? It's not as if young people are all, "let's stop this business of worshipping age; everyone younger than me, I consider you an equal." |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| sluggo832004 wrote: |
But when the ajummas are gone these young adults will have no one to tell them what to think. lol |
The next generation of ajummas will be different than the previous one, but they'll still be ajummas. Haven't you noticed how much power a young woman has over someone who is a year younger or started working at her workplace a year later? It's not as if young people are all, "let's stop this business of worshipping age; everyone younger than me, I consider you an equal." |
Treating people as equals when they are clearly not equal is called communism. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
| Hugo85 wrote: |
| I can't imagine your average university graduate wanting to be a waitress in a kimbap nara. |
Its a shame because every job that needs doing.. is worth doing well.
Nobody should be looked down on.
Food servers are as important to society as are doctors. We need both.
I'd love for people to get paid better and have better conditions at service jobs.
One gets tired of the ndless revolving door of new staff every other day, who don't have a clue what they're doing.
The human brain is capable of infinitely more than your job descripton, whatever it may be.
A person is much more than their job. Its who you are, not what you do.
Westerners recognize the above, Koreans tend not to. They view their job as a large part of their identity, and feel shame at work that is associated with lower social status. |
Ha ha ha. If only that were true. Say it isn't so..... (There are plenty of jobs in the west which require giving up your dignity. That said, they usually accompany low pay.) |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| Ethan Allen Hawley wrote: |
| The OP poses a very good question, particularly with regard to farming. |
It is a very interesting question, and one could theorize on it endlessly.
Cleaning up the streets, farming cabbage, running a simple little restaurant and taking pride in your work. What spoiled Gangnam kid will want to do that?
In the US we already know what happened; fewer farmers, fewer little mom & pop shops, more cubes, more people who want to work Facebook/Google jobs which serve no purpose. Perhaps the same thing happens here with time?
Poster John Stamos Jr likes to steal seats from the adjumas on the subway, but I say show respect, they are the backbone of this country dammit!!
What is going to happen when the adjumas are gone? |
Actually, I merely think people want to work jobs that let you pay the bills. Most of these small jobs don't do it anymore. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| Treating people as equals when they are clearly not equal is called communism. |
Communism is a comprehensive political and economic system. The preamble to the US Declaration of Independence states, "...all men are created equal." Were the US Founding Fathers anticipating Karl Marx? Hardly. My point? You're grossly oversimplifying political philosophy and what I wrote (which was not about political philosophy anyway). |
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