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sojusucks
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| nora wrote: |
| they are obligated by law to give it to you. just go it and tell them you need it. they can charge a reasonable fee (500 won or so) for it. |
You are referring to the Certificate of Employment. I drafted one in English and had a friend translate it into Korean on the reverse side. I made boxes with proper labels for people to place their dojong (signature stamp). This document can include the place of employment, length of employment and so on.
I have NEVER heard of a fee being charged. Did they wanted to charge for the paper or something? |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: Re: Requesting 'proof of employment' from a former employer. |
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| Smithington wrote: |
| I think my employer from a few years back had informed immigration that I left the job much earlier than I did. It is now causing me some headaches with immigration. They're saying I overstayed my visa. I did not. |
The process for overstaying the visa is for the school to go to Immigration and get an Exit Order that tells you when you must leave the country. Ask them to show you one for your case. You can also show them the visa in your passport and your plane tickets to further strengthen your case.
A Certificate of Employment would include the dates that you worked, but this is not the only way to overstay a visa. Determine EXACTLY how Immigration thinks you overstayed your visa.
Don't worry if your visa request is denied. There are plenty of countries. Taiwan, for instance, is nice and pays a larger salary than mainland China. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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It�s called a 재직 증명서 or 고용사실확인서 (I think the latter is what you ask for if you�ve already left the school). You shouldn�t need to draft anything for them. They know what it is. If for some reason they don�t, you can look at an example here:
http://www.bizforms.co.kr/bizcontents/qna/qna_55.asp
...or they can check their G/EPIK documents book. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you all for your information. I appreciate it. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| scorpiocandy wrote: |
I needed proof of employment from a place where I worked in 2004/2005 and they refused for some bogus reason. I called the labour board and two people told me they couldn't force the previous employer if it was more than 3 years ago.
This was in January this year that they told me that. |
Umm....I think that's BS. They should still have a record of you having worked there. I got this document from one of my schools four years after I'd left. This was a school in Japan, but they have a similar way of dragging their feet.
I'm sure if you'd have shown up in person and and asked for it they might have changed their tune.
Third parties, like recruiters (especially Korean recruiters here in Korea) hounding the school for the document can be helpful, too. |
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scorpiocandy
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
| scorpiocandy wrote: |
I needed proof of employment from a place where I worked in 2004/2005 and they refused for some bogus reason. I called the labour board and two people told me they couldn't force the previous employer if it was more than 3 years ago.
This was in January this year that they told me that. |
Umm....I think that's BS. They should still have a record of you having worked there. I got this document from one of my schools four years after I'd left. This was a school in Japan, but they have a similar way of dragging their feet.
I'm sure if you'd have shown up in person and and asked for it they might have changed their tune.
Third parties, like recruiters (especially Korean recruiters here in Korea) hounding the school for the document can be helpful, too. |
He remembered me. He just didn't WANT to give it to me because he was under the impression I had done something that I didn't do. I'm not sure what the BS part is. The Labour Board people saying he couldn't be forced? Or what? |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
| scorpiocandy wrote: |
I needed proof of employment from a place where I worked in 2004/2005 and they refused for some bogus reason. I called the labour board and two people told me they couldn't force the previous employer if it was more than 3 years ago.
This was in January this year that they told me that. |
Umm....I think that's BS. They should still have a record of you having worked there. I got this document from one of my schools four years after I'd left. This was a school in Japan, but they have a similar way of dragging their feet.
I'm sure if you'd have shown up in person and and asked for it they might have changed their tune.
Third parties, like recruiters (especially Korean recruiters here in Korea) hounding the school for the document can be helpful, too. |
He remembered me. He just didn't WANT to give it to me because he was under the impression I had done something that I didn't do. I'm not sure what the BS part is. The Labour Board people saying he couldn't be forced? Or what? |
The school not giving you the proof of employment was BS. Not saying anything bad about you.
Anyway, you showed up in person asking for it? I would have gone in and not left without it, or gone to someone above them to ask for it. Was this a PS or hagwon? I'd make Korean friends to help you out in these situations. |
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Seon-bee
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| What do you do if the place is no longer in business? Is there a document noting relevant information one can get at Immigration? |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| Seon-bee wrote: |
| What do you do if the place is no longer in business? Is there a document noting relevant information one can get at Immigration? |
Not sure, but in general, the best thing to do is get the proof of employment document as you're leaving your place of employment, not years later or when they're out of business. Know that doesn't help you much now, but for future reference... |
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BStaff
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I'm currently applying for a GEPIK position and I don't have either the reference or the proof of employment letter. Being in Canada and not wanting to burden my old employers I wrote up all the letters and asked the recruiter if they would be okay to send to the old bosses to be signed.
She told me that for the reference letter there wouldn't be a problem, but the proof of employment letter must come from the regional education office. Before writing up my letters I googled around here and other sites to get an idea what a proof of employment letter is even supposed to be.
This thread included, it doesn't appear as if anyone is getting their proof of employment letters from an education office.
Furthermore, I'm Facebook friends with a guy who works at the Incheon Ministry of Education and he told me that they don't carry any record for hagwon teachers.
Any idea what's going on here? Am I supposed to contact a more localized office? Is the recruiter confused about what is necessary, or perhaps there is a translation error here?
I'm awfully confused about this. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| BStaff wrote: |
| This thread included, it doesn't appear as if anyone is getting their proof of employment letters from an education office. |
I got my proof of employment documents from my respective schools; one from my high school in Japan, one from my hagwon in Taiwan, and one from my other elementary school here in Korea.�
Note: I don't think the one from my hagwon was helpful towards the public schools in Korea, but I got it anyway.� |
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