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edwardcatflap
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As a 'hatchet man' or simply somebody who makes the company a lot of money. The character made nearly a million dollars in one year...guess how much money he made for the company?
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Yeah I did mention a few exceptions before. e.g. Wall Street, sales jobs, like you said hatchet man. However, even if a guy makes a company a lot of money, if he pisses other high earning colleagues off so much they leave, he's costing the company money in the end. It's a balancing act in which being a nice guy or not is a factor |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| However, even if a guy makes a company a lot of money, if he pisses other high earning colleagues off so much they leave, he's costing the company money in the end. It's a balancing act in which being a nice guy or not is a factor |
What makes you think this character pisses off high earning colleagues? I interpreted the scene as him having no respect for these people in particular because they aren't taking their jobs seriously enough. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| What makes you think this character pisses off high earning colleagues? I interpreted the scene as him having no respect for these people in particular because they aren't taking their jobs seriously enough. |
I didn't really mean him as I see that kind of job (selling real estate) as being an exception - they work alone and sell direct to the public. I was thinking more about situations where people have to fit into a team |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I have never been a high income earner or worked a high powered job but I would imagine that these people are hyper competitive and rough and tumble but you still have to get along, otherwise first chance they get, they will turn on you. So, you better make aliances. If you are not liked, you are going to be stabbed in the back fast - it doesn't matter how good you are - if you don't fit in - you are probably not going anywhere. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Way back many moons, when I went to university, I used to hang out in a study lounge which had been an old classroom with a blackboard. People would write messages and witty statements on the board.
One day someone wrote: Why be nice?
A couple of days later, someone answered: It gets you sex.
People seemed to like that answer; you do get more bees with honey than vinnegar.
The reality is we all hope that people do nice things for us. The sad part is that we don't always do nice things for others. But, chances are people will do more nice things for you if you do nice things for them. Scratch my back and I will scratch yours. I am a deep believer that this will get you far.
For one reason, the difference between the skills of people are rarely so diverse. Most people have similar skills, especially people with similar jobs. Often what differentiates you is not your skills but your personality and your character.
The ambitious loner is not going to do well in a group situation. And, a good human resource is not going to put such a person in such a position and vice versa.
A sucessful "organization" takes all types.
Now, you can go around complaining about the skills of others or the choices others make or you can be a good leader and work to bring everyone up.
I'd say these days there are more complainers and not enough leaders.
Never seen the movie but I'd bet the character would make a great assasain...or hatchet man...or efficiency expert...and a terrible CEO.
Though no doubt I am sure such a character is fun to play. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| I don't care what the world values. The numbers of suicides, depressed people, disconnected people aren't getting smaller. Credit card debt/household debt has been a big problem the last 30 years. I think the world (USA, at least) needs more nice guys and fewer aggressive salesmen. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| A guy like that Baldwin character seems to have everything going for him. And a guy like that might just drop dead at age 50. Or he might live to a happy old age. Things are funny like that. Not sure how anyone can be a jerk at work and not be one outside work too. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| joelove wrote: |
| A guy like that Baldwin character seems to have everything going for him. And a guy like that might just drop dead at age 50. Or he might live to a happy old age. Things are funny like that. Not sure how anyone can be a jerk at work and not be one outside work too. |
Yes...but only seems to.
Most likely he was born rich and has no clue about high pressure sales and what it takes to make them.
He sells to affluent friends and family...and then goes on about what a great sales person he is.
He has no clue about the reality of sales in the competitive world.
It's almost always the same, if anyone here has worked in high end sales, they may have the same experience.
The amazing sales person...doesn't exist...the hardworking sales person does exist, but is most likely an asshole too.
High end, high pressure sales people are very comfortable telling lies...more so than the average person.
And it carries over into their personal lives. |
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