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Hamburgs_MecGee
Joined: 28 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:14 pm Post subject: Salary Expectation for Native in Korean Company? Help please |
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I have an interview for a major department store and the hours are listed as 9 am to 6 pm, with 8 hours of teaching the employees. I will also be responsible for interview all the employees of the department store.
I have an f6 and a sparkling resume, and although there is no word of the salary in the advertisement, I am not going to teach for less that 5.0 million.
Am I expecting too much pay? It's one of the big department stores and my office will be in Gangnam. I would actually be taking a pay cut as my monthly income now is over 6.0 million.
Basically I would like to know what people have been paid for similar companies, and also any stories (good and bad) about working there.
Cheers.
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| when I add up all my part-time work I've been doing for the last 4 years. |
What does that have to do with this job offer?
Are you agreeing to work 4 years with them? Are they agreeing to hire you for 4 years?
If you are just signing a 1 year contract, then you would need to compare 1/4 of what you made with this one. |
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Hamburgs_MecGee
Joined: 28 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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No I'm saying I've made consistently 5.5-7.0 every month for the last 4 years.
So my monthly income will actually be taking a hit.
Looking for experiences in similar work and what the ceiling for their pay might be. |
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Hamburgs_MecGee
Joined: 28 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| when I add up all my part-time work I've been doing for the last 4 years. |
What does that have to do with this job offer?
Obviously I'm considering the amount of money I currently making (6.5) and comparing it to the new job salary. I don't know anybody that would take switch jobs without thinking about that? |
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bluethree
Joined: 20 May 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I've never worked at a korean company, but i know a guy teaching english for one of the big department chains and he says there's a LOT of downtime...a lot of the employees are either too nervous to attend his classes, or don't want their boss to see them away from their desk. He spends a lot of time watching TV and surfing the net. Not sure about salary at all; i never asked. |
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Hamburgs_MecGee
Joined: 28 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I'm a little worried about that part of it. 9-6 is a long day especially if you got nothing to do.
Thanks for the input. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| when I add up all my part-time work I've been doing for the last 4 years. |
What does that have to do with this job offer?
Obviously I'm considering the amount of money I currently making (6.5) and comparing it to the new job salary. I don't know anybody that would take switch jobs without thinking about that? |
But this looks like a full-time position. If you only did part-time work, they didn't pay for living expenses to the extent one employer would I don't see how you are getting your numbers to compare a bunch of part-time jobs with 1 full-time job. To take into account 4 of these (each year) seems adding a useful variable to the formula.
I am not familiar with normal F visa arrangements. So, what exactly would an F visa holder get? With E2 you can expect a 1 year salary, place to stay, pension, severance, and flight money. How does an F visa holder compare?
Even without the comparison, part-time jobs usually pay more per hour. You are more likely to make less with one company in exchange for security of a full-time job. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Hamburgs_MecGee wrote: |
Yeah I'm a little worried about that part of it. 9-6 is a long day especially if you got nothing to do.
Thanks for the input. |
lol. teachers make me laugh sometimes. 9am-6pm a long day? have nothing to do? most of a typical corporate work week.
9am-12pm and loaded with work? rest of the corporate week. happens all the time, it's the real world. |
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Hamburgs_MecGee
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I'm a little worried about that part of it. 9-6 is a long day especially if you got nothing to do.
Thanks for the input. |
lol. teachers make me laugh sometimes. 9am-6pm a long day? have nothing to do? most of a typical corporate work week.
Then maybe we should be laughing at you and not the other way around? |
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wishfullthinkng
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Then maybe we should be laughing at you and not the other way around? |
be my guest. i love my job and i never have to worry about asking people on a forum if i should have accepted it or not. it's in a cutting edge field and even though i put in a lot of hours sometimes, it's in something i love and when you love your work and what you do it's not really "work" is it? |
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Hamburgs_MecGee
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Then maybe we should be laughing at you and not the other way around? |
be my guest. i love my job and i never have to worry about asking people on a forum if i should have accepted it or not. it's in a cutting edge field and even though i put in a lot of hours sometimes, it's in something i love and when you love your work and what you do it's not really "work" is it? |
If you love you job so much why are you trolling a lowly ESL forum? |
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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I have never done such work so take what I say for whatever you think it is worth.
The company didn't specify the salary in its advertisement or any other communication with you so the salary is negotiable.
You have some experience and you have some sense what you want and what you are worth. Use that as a base for what you expect.
They may offer you something similar to what you expect or as often is the case, they will start with a low ball figure and see if you negotiate it or not.
Now, here is the tricky part: the more you ask, the more stress you are going to be under to deliver the goods or be fired. Now, it is not uncommon for management to be more excited about English class than employees and if this is the case they may expect you to motivate them to learn English. Deliver the goods and your employer will keep paying you the salary. Sit around surfing the Internet waiting for employees to drop by your class and the company won't be able to justify your salary.
I think if you are delivering the goods, 5 - 6 mill is not out of the question. |
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Soldier
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:54 pm Post subject: 5, 6, 7 million a month? |
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I'm sorry, I find that a little hard to believe, especially the people that I know working for various companies in Korea; ie hired in Korea, etc, are getting maybe..... maybe one half of what you claim to be making.
I know one guy working as an Engineer making just half that with a housing allowance. I do know that engineers make more than teachers.
Likewise, I know a lawyer making a little more. Sorry...5-6 million working for a dept. store doesn't add up.
Also, I perused the job wanted threads and the highest salary I saw was just over 4.1, and that's working like a 'dog'.
I'm sorry, but I'm calling your bluff on this one. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sorry, but I'm calling your bluff on this one. |
There's no bluff to call is there, he was saying that's what he'd ask for. He can ask for any amount he wants. |
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Soldier
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: Delay |
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I'm sorry for the delay...just getting up from falling over from a hard hard laugh ROLMAO. I'm sure that he will give the store exe's a good hard laugh too.
I guess you are right, I could ask for 25 million a month for a job too. Doesn't mean I am going to get it....given the market conditions for such profession. |
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