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TheFoodie
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Location: Ebay Central
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: What the heck's goin' on?! |
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In the good ole days, Dave's Korea board was littered with requests for advice on executing a midnight run. Nowadays, all I see are stories about getting fired. Hell's bells, this is a change. What gives? |
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tardisrider

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:17 am Post subject: |
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J Rock

Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Location: The center of the Earth, Suji
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Times are a changing, back in the good old days when I started '06 I had to contact one recuiter and he lined me up with a job that I started 1.5 months later. I had to be at the school maybe 6 hours a day tops, boss never bothered me, and I was never cheated on money.
Now it seems like people are contacting 20 recuitrs, multiple interviews, have to get Glamour Shots taken to send to the school, working hours of 9:00AM-7:00PM and are being cheated out of money.
I have to say it's mostly the economy but a little part of me thinks the caliber of teachers who apply is now lower. I had to interview a couple prospective teachers for our school the other day and the first was a kid straight out of college and he actually told me "uh this sucks so bad, I can't find a job anywhere so I guess I have to do this."
The next guy was maybe mid thirties and he sounded good at first but then hit me with this, "dude I'm just looking for a chill job where Idont haver to do too much work. I just want to hangout at work then party on the weekends."
I just couldn't believe these guys were speaking to me like this during an interview. Maybe they felt comfortable because I'm not a native Korean but maybe they were just complete morons.
I'm thinking about changing professions, I'm going to be a life coach and teach these idiots how not to screw up a job interview! |
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Airborne9
Joined: 01 Jun 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe the reason why people aren�t posting about it as much is because if they do a Google search on it they will find the old threads with all the information?
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I have to say it's mostly the economy but a little part of me thinks the caliber of teachers who apply is now lower. |
Comon man, there were plenty of mornos here back then too. There is a reason why GEPIK and EPIK don�t allow alcohol at their orientations anymore. Few years a go all the now �vets� getting fucked up and acting like wankers. I�m not talking about �straight out of college guys� either. I came around the same time as you and I as pretty surprised by the immature behavior of guys in their 30s.
Speaking to newer people here, particularly those from the UK and Ireland. You meet some people with pretty good qualifications (not necessarily for teaching), these guys when leaving college could only get unpaid internships or very low paying jobs. So coming here gave them a bit more freedom and comfort, moneywise. 2.1 or 2.2 mil contracts don�t seem too bad to them. People here always like to have a go at the �straight out of college� people. But at the end of the day a lot of them are pretty intelligent and work hard enough. There will always be useless wankers in all groups, but I don�t think the ratio has changed in recent years even if the amount of teachers here has. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I think the reason is a matter of supply and demand.
Yes, there are as many morons now as then but back before the crash of 2008 it was difficult to find a replacement and if your school was less than great it could take months to find someone who didn't google (and be scared off) and/or would be willing to work for you.
Now, even places like Wonderland, SLP and CDI, can fire someone on Friday and pretty much have a replacement the following week.
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[email protected]
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:50 am Post subject: |
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I blame the economy both in the US and Korea.
Back in 2008 I was looking to teach in Korea. As soon as I started looking I was flooded with calls from schools practically begging me to come to Korea. Backed out due to "family stuff".
Now that I'm looking again I can't even get anyone to return my phone calls. Have all my docs but just get a few inquiries from a few recruiters. |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:12 am Post subject: Newbie |
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Stick at it Newbies. It may be a little hard right now but Korea is the best place in Asia, nay the world, to TEFL.
Two fairly recent quotes for long term posters
Captain Korea "I find it relatively easy to make 6 million won a month"
T-J " I stay in Korea because of the almost unlimited earning potential"
If you want to bank serious amounts of money and live an incredible lifestyle, choose Korea. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Really? Then why did you leave Korea to go to China? And why are you posting from China on the Korea board to try to convince people to go to Korea rather than China?
TJ and CC have Korean wives and thus the F visa. That is a HUGE advantage. The F visa = boatloads of money. Also, TJ owns a hagwon. How many n00bs have the startup capital and requisite visa to open their own hagwon? |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say it is because of the economy back home. When I first arrived, 2003, foreigners would just do midnight runs all the time. I remember one time a guy called my friend,
Dude: "F�ck it man, I'm gone."
Friend: "What?"
Dude: "I'm at the airport. I've had enough of this shit. I'm on a flight to Thailand."
Friend: "Okay man, good luck."
And that was it.
Now people are scared to quit, or be fired it seems. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| The F visa = boatloads of money. |
Untrue. You still have to work at it. It doesn't just fall into your lap. There are F-visa posters on here who have said the same thing. |
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Chaucer
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| The F visa = boatloads of money. |
Untrue. You still have to work at it. It doesn't just fall into your lap. There are F-visa posters on here who have said the same thing. |
Definitely untrue, by which I mean that TheUrbanMyth's untrue is exactly right--there are F5ers working solely at Wonderland, or YBM adults, etc. But others max it out, teaching business in the early morning, university during, uh, business hours, and middle/high school kids in | |