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rollo
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The issue of healthcare is complex. States have different healthcare systems. Tennessee, Massachusetts and some other states have their own healthcare systems. They will be dissolved under Obamacare.
people often think that the u.s. only has one type of healthcare system ignoring the state run systems.
it is not Canadian jingoism that is off putting it is the constant comparisons with the U.S. when those comparisons are not really valid. |
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supernick
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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The issue of healthcare is complex. States have different healthcare systems. Tennessee, Massachusetts and some other states have their own healthcare systems. They will be dissolved under Obamacare.
people often think that the u.s. only has one type of healthcare system ignoring the state run systems.
it is not Canadian jingoism that is off putting it is the constant comparisons with the U.S. when those comparisons are not really valid. |
Though Canada has a federal policy on healthcare, each province has its own system, and services differ in each province to some degree.
I'm not going to enter intp the U.S. debate on their health care system, but my understanding is that many of those who went bankrupt because of a health problem did in fact have and were covered by insurance.
The U.S. is in a great position to have the best national health care system in the world if they really want it. |
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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Many people around the world are richer than Americans that Canadians are isn't surprising. Koreans by and large are better off than Americans too. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
The issue of healthcare is complex. States have different healthcare systems. Tennessee, Massachusetts and some other states have their own healthcare systems. They will be dissolved under Obamacare.
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Are you sure about that? I haven't heard anything about that. The Massachusetts system basically IS Obamacare. That's what makes Romney's opposition to Obamacare such a political land mine for him in the election. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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The issue of healthcare is complex. States have different healthcare systems. Tennessee, Massachusetts and some other states have their own healthcare systems. They will be dissolved under Obamacare.
people often think that the u.s. only has one type of healthcare system ignoring the state run systems.
it is not Canadian jingoism that is off putting it is the constant comparisons with the U.S. when those comparisons are not really valid. |
Though Canada has a federal policy on healthcare, each province has its own system, and services differ in each province to some degree.
I'm not going to enter intp the U.S. debate on their health care system, but my understanding is that many of those who went bankrupt because of a health problem did in fact have and were covered by insurance.
The U.S. is in a great position to have the best national health care system in the world if they really want it. |
Yes, I think the link I posted also notes that the vast majority of those who declared bankruptcy due to med costs also had insurance.
I also agree that the US is in a great position to have a great health care system. Unfortunately special interests (pharma, insurance companies, for profit hospitals, etc) want to do whatever they can to protect their profits and shelter themselves as much as possible. Sadly they have more influence than patients. Maybe the financial mess the health care system has become will finally push us to develop a better system. |
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World Traveler
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreans by and large are better off than Americans too. |
Better off than white Americans? Or Asian Americans? I highly doubt that.
Loads of Koreans flock to the United States. Hardly any Americans (just a few thousand) come to Korea. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
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| Koreans by and large are better off than Americans too. |
Better off than white Americans? Or Asian Americans? I highly doubt that.
Loads of Koreans flock to the United States. Hardly any Americans (just a few thousand) come to Korea. |
I'd say your average Korean has better health care than your average American. Definitely has access to better public transportation. Better education too (below the university level).
Fewer Koreans "flock" here now, and those who do generally are here temporarily for educational purposes. Sure, some stay, especially if they stay in academia, but many also go back.
I don't know if I totally agree with GENO, but I certainly think there is some validity to his comment. |
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J Rock
Joined: 17 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:10 am Post subject: |
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I grew up in Metro Detroit which is about 15 minutes drive to Windsor. We used to make the trip across the border all the time (mostly because the drinking age was 19 in Canada). We would hit lots of bars and mingle/hangout with lots of Canadians, we never had any problems with anyone, we all had fun and generally got along. I guess we just didnt see a difference betwen us.
I never knew Canada hated the US so much, it wasen't unitl I came to Korea (and got on Dave's) that I found out that Canada and the US hated each other. 12ax7 is hilarious, and I mean that I dont think he's a normal type of Canadian. Anyone who boasts about how good their county is and puts other countries down is deep down insecure.
12ax7 I should introduce you to my Canadian friends just to verify that you're not normal, I'm sure they would agree with me. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Many Koreans have an idealized veiw of moving to the States or Canada and becoming rich and or famous. When they get there, they soon realize that their chances were much better in their home country.
I'd have to agree that many Koreans are better off than Americans or Canadians for that matter. It's just that they don't realize it. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| J Rock wrote: |
I grew up in Metro Detroit which is about 15 minutes drive to Windsor. We used to make the trip across the border all the time (mostly because the drinking age was 19 in Canada). We would hit lots of bars and mingle/hangout with lots of Canadians, we never had any problems with anyone, we all had fun and generally got along. I guess we just didnt see a difference betwen us.
I never knew Canada hated the US so much, it wasen't unitl I came to Korea (and got on Dave's) that I found out that Canada and the US hated each other. 12ax7 is hilarious, and I mean that I dont think he's a normal type of Canadian. Anyone who boasts about how good their county is and puts other countries down is deep down insecure.
12ax7 I should introduce you to my Canadian friends just to verify that you're not normal, I'm sure they would agree with me. |
Oh, so you're the troll that lives under the Ambassador Bridge?
Canadians talking about Canada, imagine that. Pure lunacy.
If you want to talk about insecurity, talk about the trolls who jumped on this thread because the OP posted something positive about Canada. All I did was challenge their nonsense.
And...Until I came to Korea I had never met an American who was insecure and intolerant to the point of making snide remarks whenever Canadians talked about Canada (Why would people like that decide to move to a country halfway around the world? Maybe their unpleasant personalities made it difficult for them to get and hold a job in the US). Luckily, those only make up a very tiny minority of the Americans I know and have met here. |
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