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Salary Expectation for Native in Korean Company? Help please
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Soldier



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: No Worries Reply with quote

Wishfulthinking...not to worry...thanks.

I think the thread is now so cluttered, and clogged up that it's so easy to misunderstand something.

Yeah..I was actually speaking positively to you.

Peace!!

Have a good day.

Cheers.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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here's an article from 2006 that kind of illustrates what soldier was saying about teachers back in the day being able to make major coin. when they were still a bit of a novelty and treated like celebrities.

http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2006-12-10/where-a-teacher-can-make-millions

and here's another similar one:

http://reganmian.net/blog/2009/10/25/korean-teachers-make-10-millionyear-by-producing-online-resources/



These stories always get quoted whenever people on here start talking about money but they're not really relevant to native speakers - or proper teachers. They're always Korean and are more akin to your how to get rich quick type gurus offering magic bullets for people to get into top universities. They attract and fleece large crowds and make a lot more by selling access to their 'lectures' online.
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Hamburgs_MecGee



Joined: 28 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record, the interview went like this.

1) Do you like spicy food, you are fashionable, do you want this job?
2) They ask me my salary expectation after I tell them about myself.
3) I ask for 5.0 million
4) He says the highest they can pay is 3.7 million.
5) I explain that I would consider taking the job if the classes were all
scheduled in the morning time and I can leave on days where there are
no a a afternoon responsibilities.

6) He was baffled at this and start telling me how 3.7 is "huge money" and
anyone would kill for this job and I should take it.
7) Wished him luck in finding a good employee and bailed.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hamburgs_MecGee wrote:
For the record, the interview went like this.

1) Do you like spicy food, you are fashionable, do you want this job?
2) They ask me my salary expectation after I tell them about myself.
3) I ask for 5.0 million
4) He says the highest they can pay is 3.7 million.
5) I explain that I would consider taking the job if the classes were all
scheduled in the morning time and I can leave on days where there are
no a a afternoon responsibilities.

6) He was baffled at this and start telling me how 3.7 is "huge money" and
anyone would kill for this job and I should take it.
7) Wished him luck in finding a good employee and bailed.


What?!? He only offered you 3.7? Man, that's a rip off. I really thought that he would have happily accepted your offer to work for 5 million.

Good luck to them finding a teacher willing to do a cushy "teach the employees" job for a measly 3.7 million.

Rolling Eyes
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Soldier



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: LMAO Reply with quote

For the record, the interview went like this.

1) Do you like spicy food, you are fashionable, do you want this job?
2) They ask me my salary expectation after I tell them about myself.
3) I ask for 5.0 million
4) He says the highest they can pay is 3.7 million.
5) I explain that I would consider taking the job if the classes were all
scheduled in the morning time and I can leave on days where there are
no a a afternoon responsibilities.

6) He was baffled at this and start telling me how 3.7 is "huge money" and
anyone would kill for this job and I should take it.
7) Wished him luck in finding a good employee and bailed.






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Ok, I'm up off my chair.

OK, I'm done laughing now. C'mon seriously? I've heard of some stories, but that's a whopper of a story.

Even 3.0 is big money.

Please try again when you have an accurate account.

Cheers.
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Hamburgs_MecGee



Joined: 28 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: LMAO Reply with quote

Soldier wrote:
For the record, the interview went like this.

1) Do you like spicy food, you are fashionable, do you want this job?
2) They ask me my salary expectation after I tell them about myself.
3) I ask for 5.0 million
4) He says the highest they can pay is 3.7 million.
5) I explain that I would consider taking the job if the classes were all
scheduled in the morning time and I can leave on days where there are
no a a afternoon responsibilities.

6) He was baffled at this and start telling me how 3.7 is "huge money" and
anyone would kill for this job and I should take it.
7) Wished him luck in finding a good employee and bailed.






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Ok, I'm up off my chair.

OK, I'm done laughing now. C'mon seriously? I've heard of some stories, but that's a whopper of a story.

Even 3.0 is big money.

Please try again when you have an accurate account.

Cheers.


3.7 is slave labour for 9-6 with 7-8 classes a day plus interviewing duties.

Currently I have a three contracts:

1) 3.5 for 15 hours a week (no desk time) 7:00-10:00 a.m. M-F
2) 3.5 for 15 hours a week (no desk time) 6:00-9:00 p.m. M-F
3) 1.9 for 8 hours a week (no desk time) Sundays

So soldier do the math, and you'll quickly see I'm already working much less in terms of total teaching hours than the company gig, and making much more. (8.9)

I'm starting to realize I already have a good situation and should sit tight.

Soldier, keep working for you 1.9 million man, keep it up manzeere, keep up the work Bra-Heed, Bra-Heed.

Keep you nose to the grindstone,

...and you ear to the chimestone!
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would actually be taking a pay cut as my monthly income now is over 6.0 million.


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So soldier do the math, and you'll quickly see I'm already working much less in terms of total teaching hours than the company gig, and making much more. (8.9)


Strange that you'd say your income was 'over 6 million' when you were earning 8.9 and even stranger that you'd apply for a job intending to ask for 5 million for 40 hours or so a week when you are earning 8.9 million for 38 hours now.
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Soldier



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:12 pm    Post subject: Don't mind HM Reply with quote

He's just spinning yarns...
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ewlandon



Joined: 30 Jan 2011
Location: teacher

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: LMAO Reply with quote

Hamburgs_MecGee wrote:
Soldier wrote:
For the record, the interview went like this.

1) Do you like spicy food, you are fashionable, do you want this job?
2) They ask me my salary expectation after I tell them about myself.
3) I ask for 5.0 million
4) He says the highest they can pay is 3.7 million.
5) I explain that I would consider taking the job if the classes were all
scheduled in the morning time and I can leave on days where there are
no a a afternoon responsibilities.

6) He was baffled at this and start telling me how 3.7 is "huge money" and
anyone would kill for this job and I should take it.
7) Wished him luck in finding a good employee and bailed.






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Ok, I'm up off my chair.

OK, I'm done laughing now. C'mon seriously? I've heard of some stories, but that's a whopper of a story.

Even 3.0 is big money.

Please try again when you have an accurate account.

Cheers.


3.7 is slave labour for 9-6 with 7-8 classes a day plus interviewing duties.

Currently I have a three contracts:

1) 3.5 for 15 hours a week (no desk time) 7:00-10:00 a.m. M-F
2) 3.5 for 15 hours a week (no desk time) 6:00-9:00 p.m. M-F
3) 1.9 for 8 hours a week (no desk time) Sundays

So soldier do the math, and you'll quickly see I'm already working much less in terms of total teaching hours than the company gig, and making much more. (8.9)

I'm starting to realize I already have a good situation and should sit tight.

Soldier, keep working for you 1.9 million man, keep it up manzeere, keep up the work Bra-Heed, Bra-Heed.

Keep you nose to the grindstone,

...and you ear to the chimestone!



if you want to brag to an internet forum don't constantly contridict yourself and change your figures in each subsequent post.


Why did you start this post in the first place?

Do you have friends? I can't imagine you are a fun person to be around.
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Hamburgs_MecGee



Joined: 28 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: LMAO Reply with quote

ewlandon wrote:
Hamburgs_MecGee wrote:
Soldier wrote:
For the record, the interview went like this.

1) Do you like spicy food, you are fashionable, do you want this job?
2) They ask me my salary expectation after I tell them about myself.
3) I ask for 5.0 million
4) He says the highest they can pay is 3.7 million.
5) I explain that I would consider taking the job if the classes were all
scheduled in the morning time and I can leave on days where there are
no a a afternoon responsibilities.

6) He was baffled at this and start telling me how 3.7 is "huge money" and
anyone would kill for this job and I should take it.
7) Wished him luck in finding a good employee and bailed.






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Ok, I'm up off my chair.

OK, I'm done laughing now. C'mon seriously? I've heard of some stories, but that's a whopper of a story.

Even 3.0 is big money.

Please try again when you have an accurate account.

Cheers.


3.7 is slave labour for 9-6 with 7-8 classes a day plus interviewing duties.

Currently I have a three contracts:

1) 3.5 for 15 hours a week (no desk time) 7:00-10:00 a.m. M-F
2) 3.5 for 15 hours a week (no desk time) 6:00-9:00 p.m. M-F
3) 1.9 for 8 hours a week (no desk time) Sundays

So soldier do the math, and you'll quickly see I'm already working much less in terms of total teaching hours than the company gig, and making much more. (8.9)

I'm starting to realize I already have a good situation and should sit tight.

Soldier, keep working for you 1.9 million man, keep it up manzeere, keep up the work Bra-Heed, Bra-Heed.

Keep you nose to the grindstone,

...and you ear to the chimestone!



if you want to brag to an internet forum don't constantly contridict yourself and change your figures in each subsequent post.


Why did you start this post in the first place?

Do you have friends? I can't imagine you are a fun person to be around.


No contradictions, the 1.9 gig is off and on, so it averages out to around 6.5 over the course of year. That's why I said 6.5.

This post wasn't about my income, it was about comparing my preesnt sitation to a job offer. I asked for some insight about working in a company fulltime and got some.

Keep your ear to the grindstone!
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Soldier



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Contradictions Reply with quote

It's nose to the grindstone...not ear. Do you want me to go deaf? Laughing Laughing
Anyway...you keep changing the facts like the weather. You're always changing something. It doesn't hold up. This is the wrong forum to BS anyone. Laughing Laughing

There must be a 'liars' table somewhere in some bar somewhere here. Laughing Laughing
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No contradictions, the 1.9 gig is off and on, so it averages out to around 6.5 over the course of year. That's why I said 6.5.


How does it average out to 6.5 when you have 2 jobs paying 3.5 a month? That's already 7 million a month without any Sunday classes.
Get your story right already!
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:


How does it average out to 6.5 when you have 2 jobs paying 3.5 a month?



No no Mr.catflap that is not what he said.

Quote:
1) 3.5 for 15 hours a week (no desk time) 7:00-10:00 a.m. M-F
2) 3.5 for 15 hours a week (no desk time) 6:00-9:00 p.m. M-F


As we can clearly see in his quote above he makes that a WEEK...not month. Razz Razz



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whiteshoes



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fwiw I just met a for a camp. He PROMISED me a job for 5.0 working for samsung. If a recruiter promises it, it has got to be real, right?
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braindrops



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this threas is quite fascinating.

to be fair, there is nothing directly contradictory in hamburgs statement when he writes 3.5 for 15 hours a week...i think he didnt write 3.5 a month bc he assumed correctly that 3.5 a week is an outlandish sum esp. for 3 hrs of work a day. After all, 3.5 a week would be 700k a day...which would make the gig essentially 233k won per hour. Unless you are personally teaching park geun hye english with taxpayer money, i dont see how that makes any sense. so i think hamburg clearly meant 3.5 a month.

Hamburg is making 9m for a 38 hr work week..an enviable position indeed. In fact, those numbers would demand that he stay right where he is, because that works out to a nine figure salary for less than a standard 2000 hr billable year. I suggest staying until they rip the english textbooks out of his hands and give him a dongdaemun gold watch.

The real question when i think of the issue of getting paid to teach english is, what is the value add? And i also question the attitude of flaunting getting paid a lot to do little when the job is to teach a foreign language. In my experience, it adds imperialistic insult to injury that koreans are compelled to learn english at the expense of up to a third of their income, all the while knowing that the people who come here to teach this language often make more money for far less work and obligation. Because of people like that, English is gaining the kind of back alley vitriol usually reserved for ibankers and fund managers. It is sad that the many people who do come to korea and who genuinely appreciate the unusual situation theyre in--to earn money teaching something that any reasonably educated person back home is gifted--get lumped in with the ones who give foreign english teachers a bad rep. If you are producing fluent speakers as if by assembly line, then by all means, you deserve whatever the market for that will bear. But in my experience, those who tout how little they work and how much they make are not exactly thinking with the students interests first in mind. In those cases, what exactly is the value add that justifies such strong pay? Or is it just a matter of hoarding that info arbitrage situation and tricking them into paying you until they realize that hey, there are now a lot of smart people out in korea looking for work?
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