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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| sublunari wrote: |
| He says this at 4:42 (and actually seems to call it the "Benzantine" Empire). Please explain to me how his words do not contradict everything you just wrote. Or would you rather I provide a list of wars fought by the Byzantine Empire? The idea that they never debased their currency (as Ron Paul says very clearly) and that they never fought wars (as he also says with exceedingly translucent crystal clearness) is honestly something that only a mindless Paulbot like yourself would defend, and if you weren't obsessed with ceaselessly polluting this forum with garbage about the evils of the Federal Reserve and the failure of Keynesian economics you might actually be able to admit that the man is completely, absolutely, totally, off his rocker. |
Your problem is that you're still stuck on first (i.e. stupid) level thinking. Rather than recognize the obvious stream-of-conscious nature of the quote (which was spoken unrehearsed, not written) you insist, quite obnoxiously and obtusely, on taking it completely literally. It's obvious that what he meant was that the Byzantine empire was relatively peaceful and stable during the times that its gold currency, the bezant, was circulating (not actually a thousand years as was spoken, but still a very long time); and that its debasement went hand in hand with the wars that led to its decline.
But you're not interested in discussing those relevant points, since you'd rather be an obnoxious troll spouting off smart ass comments about nothing. Oh well. |
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sublunari
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
Your problem is that you're still stuck on first (i.e. stupid) level thinking. Rather than recognize the obvious stream-of-conscious nature of the quote (which was spoken unrehearsed, not written) you insist, quite obnoxiously and obtusely, on taking it completely literally. It's obvious that what he meant was that the Byzantine empire was relatively peaceful and stable during the times that its gold currency, the bezant, was circulating (not actually a thousand years as was spoken, but still a very long time); and that its debasement went hand in hand with the wars that led to its decline.
But you're not interested in discussing those relevant points, since you'd rather be an obnoxious troll spouting off smart ass comments about nothing. Oh well. |
So first I was making a straw man, and now I'm reading his arguments too literally. O-kay. You really do worship this man religiously, visitorq. You're making the same argument that religious people make when confronted with inaccuracies in their favorite religious texts. When a literal meaning obviously doesn't work, read it metaphorically. When a metaphorical meaning obviously doesn't work, read it literally. Come on. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| sublunari wrote: |
| So first I was making a straw man, and now I'm reading his arguments too literally. |
Actually, yeah you were doing both.
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| O-kay. You really do worship this man religiously, visitorq. You're making the same argument that religious people make when confronted with inaccuracies in their favorite religious texts. When a literal meaning obviously doesn't work, read it metaphorically. When a metaphorical meaning obviously doesn't work, read it literally. Come on. |
This is just silly. I "worship" Ron Paul? Wow, that's news to me. Seeing as I am only really exposed to him on a mainstream level. I do subscribe to most of the ideas held by Austrian economists, but Ron Paul typically only goes over that on a fairly superficial level (i.e. intentionally dumbed down a bit so the message has somewhat of a chance to resonate with the masses, who are otherwise tuned into MSNBC/FOX and too ignorant to know what's going on). I tend to read other writers who delve into greater detail. Which isn't to say that Ron Paul isn't correct about most of what he says, but I hardly pay him an exceptional amount of attention (in this particular case I was just interpreting what he said in the obvious way that he meant it; nothing "metaphorical" about it at all).
Krugman, on the other hand, is a complete failure. Everything he says is either an outright falsehood, or has failed to come true. The man is an absolute joke. |
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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Ron Paul and Paul Krugman (Video) |
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A very interesting interview with Ron Paul and Paul Krugman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEoGKpnutyA
I know that Ron Paul was running for President but he sounds much more like a politician than I expected and Paul Krugman really comes off glib and erudite.
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I agree that Krugman is extremely erudite, but glib more perfectly describes Ron Paul's economic views. Glib: "marked by lack of intellectual depth; "glib generalizations"; "a glib response to a complex question"
having only superficial plausibility; "glib promises"; "a slick commercial" |
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