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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:55 pm Post subject: Man saves boy from dog mauling; faces prosecution for gun |
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No good deed goes unpunished. . .
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/man-shot-pit-bull-save-boy-gun-charges_n_2551012.html?
A Good Samaritan who shot a pit bull that was mauling an 11-year-old boy in Washington, D.C., on Sunday could face gun charges, WJLA reports.
As the unidentified neighbor witnessed three pit bulls biting Jayeon Simon, who was on his bicycle, the man went to fetch his gun, the station reports.
He then shot one of the dogs dead, catching the attention of a police officer in the vicinity. The officer then shot the other two dogs as they continued to maul the boy, who was later hospitalized with severe lacerations.
Area police confirmed the man could be charged with violating gun laws, the Washington Post reports. Even if the gun were legally registered, firing it on a D.C. street is illegal, the paper noted.
However, attorney David Benowitz, a gun law expert, told the Post that making the case stick would be difficult because the attack seemed to happen near the shooter's property line.
The Washington Times also interviewed a defense attorney not involved in the case. Daniel Gross told the Times that if the U.S. attorney�s office were to take up the case, it's not always so understanding toward those who fire weapons to save others.
Gross added that the greatest bearing on the outcome will still likely be whether the gun user was the registered owner. (Lesser charges for unlicensed guns are prosecuted by the D.C. attorney general's office, but bigger charges could elevate the proceedings to the U.S. attorney's office, the Times noted.)
Whatever the outcome, other neighbors expressed outrage over the possibility the man could face punishment for a heroic deed, WJLA reports. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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You'd think that there'd be some room for Self Defence laws to overlap with Good Samaritan laws.
This guy should not get convicted looking at the above, IMO. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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He could face charges, that's all. The story strongly suggests that he won't. |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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You're assuming the DC prosecutor is rational. He's shown that he's not.
Last year he prosecuted a vet only two weeks removed from the field for an ammo violation. The guy had some loose 9MM bullets in his duffle bag when he visited the VA hospital to turn in his medical records. He did not know or forgot that they were in his bag. No gun. Just a handful of bullets. But since they were unregistered bullets, he was handcuffed, arrested and jailed. He had to accept a plea deal from the prosecutor to get it down to a misdemeanor, take probation, and was put on the Gun Offender Registry List. That's how the prosecutor treated a veteran over a trivial offense that's legal in every other state in the nation. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:57 am Post subject: |
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madoka wrote: |
You're assuming the DC prosecutor is rational. He's shown that he's not.
Last year he prosecuted a vet only two weeks removed from the field for an ammo violation. The guy had some loose 9MM bullets in his duffle bag when he visited the VA hospital to turn in his medical records. He did not know or forgot that they were in his bag. No gun. Just a handful of bullets. But since they were unregistered bullets, he was handcuffed, arrested and jailed. He had to accept a plea deal from the prosecutor to get it down to a misdemeanor, take probation, and was put on the Gun Offender Registry List. That's how the prosecutor treated a veteran over a trivial offense that's legal in every other state in the nation. |
The guy shouldn't have even had those in the first place. Ammo is a Class V supply in the Canadian and American military (i.e. you're not supposed to bring it home). Had he been caught while he was still in the military, he would have also been charged. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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12ax7 wrote: |
The guy shouldn't have even had those in the first place. Ammo is a Class V supply in the Canadian and American military (i.e. you're not supposed to bring it home). Had he been caught while he was still in the military, he would have also been charged. |
Is there any reason to think the 9mm didn't belong to him?
It's not exactly the kind of thing you have to steal from your military base, since you can buy a box of 100 rounds for $10 at Wal Mart. |
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Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Even if he did violate some law or another by firing this gun on a city street, given he acted to save the life of the child in question, jury nullification would probably be in order if he were actually prosecuted. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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comm wrote: |
12ax7 wrote: |
The guy shouldn't have even had those in the first place. Ammo is a Class V supply in the Canadian and American military (i.e. you're not supposed to bring it home). Had he been caught while he was still in the military, he would have also been charged. |
Is there any reason to think the 9mm didn't belong to him?
It's not exactly the kind of thing you have to steal from your military base, since you can buy a box of 100 rounds for $10 at Wal Mart. |
You need to read again what Madoka wrote. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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12ax7 wrote: |
comm wrote: |
12ax7 wrote: |
The guy shouldn't have even had those in the first place. Ammo is a Class V supply in the Canadian and American military (i.e. you're not supposed to bring it home). Had he been caught while he was still in the military, he would have also been charged. |
Is there any reason to think the 9mm didn't belong to him?
It's not exactly the kind of thing you have to steal from your military base, since you can buy a box of 100 rounds for $10 at Wal Mart. |
You need to read again what Madoka wrote. |
Madoka didn't say if they were U.S. government bullets or not, which is why I'm wondering why you assume that they were. Perhaps you should read his post again. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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comm wrote: |
12ax7 wrote: |
comm wrote: |
12ax7 wrote: |
The guy shouldn't have even had those in the first place. Ammo is a Class V supply in the Canadian and American military (i.e. you're not supposed to bring it home). Had he been caught while he was still in the military, he would have also been charged. |
Is there any reason to think the 9mm didn't belong to him?
It's not exactly the kind of thing you have to steal from your military base, since you can buy a box of 100 rounds for $10 at Wal Mart. |
You need to read again what Madoka wrote. |
Madoka didn't say if they were U.S. government bullets or not, which is why I'm wondering why you assume that they were. Perhaps you should read his post again. |
In his duffel bag, unregistered...Do you need him to spell out the headstamp codes? |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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12ax7 wrote: |
In his duffel bag, unregistered...Do you need him to spell out the headstamp codes? |
Perhaps we're working with different definitions of "unregistered" here. To my knowledge, 9mm ammunition from Wal-Mart would fall into the category of "unregistered" and could easily be stored in a duffel bag. Is there something I'm missing which indicates that isn't the case? |
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