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kinship
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| dairyairy wrote: |
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| Army personnel should wear Army attire and teachers wear teachers attire. What's so hard about that? |
What exactly is "teacher's attire" in South Korea? A Hines Ward Steelers jersey? A t-shirt and jeans? A backpack with a Canadian flag? A Tiger Williams jersey? C'mon, you gotta give us a clue. |
For men: Suit, with corduroy patches on the elbows of the jacket, tie (optional), nice shoes, briefcase and pipe.
For women: A very nice dress up to her neck and down to her ankles (no slits), large purse, comfortable shoes, no make-up,
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actionjackson
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Location: Any place I'm at
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Army personnel should wear Army attire and teachers wear teachers attire. What's so hard about that? Besides I think Army men should set a better example of their military and dressing the part would go a long way in doing that. And not to mention it would made them more easily identified if need be for any reason--emergency and non-emergency cases alike. |
The reason they don't is because it's supposed to keep them from standing out when out in public. There is a fear that things like this might happen:
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U.S. troops in Europe are now forbidden to wear their uniforms off post �to the maximum extent possible,� including daily commutes to and from the office, as part of an effort to prevent servicemembers from standing out in a crowd, according to U.S. European Command.
The new policy, which comes three weeks after a deadly shooting outside Frankfurt Airport that left two airmen dead and two badly wounded, takes effect immediately. |
http://www.stripes.com/news/u-s-troops-in-europe-banned-from-wearing-uniforms-off-base-1.138690
I was stationed on Germany in the mid 2000's and this was the reason we weren't supposed to wear our uniforms after the duty day was done. Of course the haircuts are usually a dead give away. |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nice bit of stereotyping going on here on a forum where people complain a lot about being stereotyped 
The real problem is obviously the subgroup in both military and tutoring personnel that's under 30 years old. Get rid of the adolescents and eliminate 90% of foreigner "incidents". |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I must say there is something to 'acting to your attire'.
You dress more formally you'll to a degree act more formally, patiently and calmly.
Not to mention conforming more to society's expectations of proper dress is apt to lead one to conform to society's expectations of proper behavior. We may take issue with the former, but there is some benefit in the latter. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
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| Army personnel should wear Army attire and teachers wear teachers attire. What's so hard about that? |
What exactly is "teacher's attire" in South Korea? A Hines Ward Steelers jersey? A t-shirt and jeans? A backpack with a Canadian flag? A Tiger Williams jersey? C'mon, you gotta give us a clue. |
For men: Suit, with corduroy patches on the elbows of the jacket, tie (optional), nice shoes, briefcase and pipe.
For women: A very nice dress up to her neck and down to her ankles (no slits), large purse, comfortable shoes, no make-up,
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Is that what you wear in your kindy hagwon? |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Dodge7
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I saw that article on Yahoo but just read the headline and didn't bother to click. Who would have guessed it was a Korean guy..sounds Korean anyway.
Did you notice NO mention of his race or ethnicity? Had this been in Korea and reversed you would have heard the news reporter say "waegookin" about 20 times before it ended.
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kinship
Joined: 24 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Is that what you wear in your kindy hagwon? |
I do not work in one but even if I did, it wouldn't be an insult as at least I would be employed. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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I saw that article on Yahoo but just read the headline and didn't bother to click. Who would have guessed it was a Korean guy..sounds Korean anyway.
Did you notice NO mention of his race or ethnicity? Had this been in Korea and reversed you would have heard the news reporter say "waegookin" about 20 times before it ended.
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His lawyer will argue that in America, since Asians never complain; no one took his repeated complaints to the management office seriously and he was ignored because he is a minority. |
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postfundie
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Is anybody going to post any of the follow-up on this story? Nobody has a friend who is the military who can tell us what's going on? |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Is anybody going to post any of the follow-up on this story? Nobody has a friend who is the military who can tell us what's going on? |
Or maybe a follow-up from the Korean media with the truth? |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| It's one of those sensational BS stories with ooooooops....... and brush it under the table. |
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kinship
Joined: 24 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Is anybody going to post any of the follow-up on this story? Nobody has a friend who is the military who can tell us what's going on? |
If they have been turned over to the US military I doubt there will be a follow-up. It might get some mentioning in an off hand remark in some pointless article but I doubt it will be big news. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| If they have been turned over to the US military I doubt there will be a follow-up. |
Yet again you display your ignorance. The reason those soldiers ("the accused") have been turned over to the US military is because there's this nifty thing both the ROK and the US signed: the Status of Forces Agreement ("SOFA"). The ROK has a treaty obligation to surrender the accused to the US military except in certain cases. The US also has treaty obligation pertaining to the accused as follows.
The accused have been turned over to the US military and will be made available for questioning whenever the ROK authorities require that. The US military also guarantees that the accused will be present at all court hearings for their case.
If the ROK does not relinquish jurisdiction, then when the court makes a decisioin, that decision will be published as required by law. The US military will also publish the court's decision.
If the ROK prosecutor's office does relinquish jurisdiction, then the US military can pursue either "administrative punishment" procedures ("Article 15") under the Uniform Code of Military Justice ("UCMJ") or trial by court-martial. The decision to do that will be based on an Article 32 investigation (simiilar to a grand jury indictment). Again, if either is pursued, the decision of the Article 15 or the court-martial will be published by the US military as required by law.
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| It might get some mentioning in an off hand remark in some pointless article but I doubt it will be big news. |
Yeah, right. Charges against US military members of sex offenses against Korean women in Korea are never ever big news. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| The soldiers will remain innocent until PROVEN guilty. Koreans will have to provide substantial evidence to prove the soldiers guilty. |
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