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Would you take a pay cut to remain employed in Korea
Yes
14%
 14%  [ 8 ]
No
31%
 31%  [ 17 ]
It depends
27%
 27%  [ 15 ]
I don't know
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
No way in heck!!!
14%
 14%  [ 8 ]
I would work for free
7%
 7%  [ 4 ]
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kinship



Joined: 24 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Would you take a pay cut... Reply with quote

to stay in Korea and continue teaching English?**

I should add the word 'reasonable' before the word 'pay'. I am not talking about a drastic cut but would you take reduced pay to remain employed here.




**(Theme of thread is not original with me I got it elsewhere)
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kinship



Joined: 24 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to include the range for the reduction. Let's say from 100,000 to 400,000 won cut in pay.
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newb



Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd work for free. Koreans are poor and desparate so I'd donate my time and money. I'd get tax deduction for my donation.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, get paid less simply for the pleasure of living in Korea?

This question makes no sense for me. I'm on an F5, so whether I'm employed or not, I'm able to live in Korea. I'm also able to work where/how I want.

But I'm guessing that doesn't fall into the narrow scope of the good Doctor's OP.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, as I stated in the Waygook thread, I've taken a pay cut for my uni job. It's worth it, though, as I have a fantastic schedule and holiday leave.
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newinseoul



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I would not take a pay cut. My years of experience have helped me get to my current salary. I have trouble saving as it is. A pay cut would hurt me and every year I return to Korea, I make sure I get a higher pay than the previous year.
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Hugo85



Joined: 27 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every year without a pay raise is a cut in wage. English teacher used to received 2.1M starting salary 10 or even 15 years ago and Korea has had pretty large inflation over the years.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A simple "no".

Korea is a G20 "developed" nation so there is no reason to take a cut so someone else can line their pocket or make further profit at my expense.

Korea is not the be all, end all for work outside of our home countries.

For a newbie entering EFL then perhaps it might still be the best choice in terms of pay and savings but not to take pay cuts for the privilege of staying here.

If someone is tied to Korea for heritage or family reasons and was unwilling or unable to move onward or upward due to limits in their credentials or abilities then perhaps I could understand.

There are more than ample opportunities in the education / EFL industry in Asia and I am not tied at the apron strings to Korea so, no. I would NOT take a pay cut to stay employed nor would I take a pay cut to stay in Korea.

I will move onward, upward and forward.

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nukeday



Joined: 13 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
So, get paid less simply for the pleasure of living in Korea?

This question makes no sense for me. I'm on an F5, so whether I'm employed or not, I'm able to live in Korea. I'm also able to work where/how I want.

But I'm guessing that doesn't fall into the narrow scope of the good Doctor's OP.


Yes, quite narrow, even though on a board for EFL/ESL teachers there are so few people with residence visas?

And was the OP even talking about the ability to live in Korea???
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
Yes, as I stated in the Waygook thread, I've taken a pay cut for my uni job. It's worth it, though, as I have a fantastic schedule and holiday leave.


May I ask, how much do you make?
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kinship



Joined: 24 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
So, get paid less simply for the pleasure of living in Korea?

This question makes no sense for me. I'm on an F5, so whether I'm employed or not, I'm able to live in Korea. I'm also able to work where/how I want.

But I'm guessing that doesn't fall into the narrow scope of the good Doctor's OP.


There is always one troublemaker. How hard would it be to simply address the part about a pay cut and ignore the residency part of the question?

FOR THOSE F-visa holders: Would you take a reasonable pay cut to keep your job? Doesn't have to be current position .
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I would not. Being allowed to work only one job is already a tremendous restriction. Cutting the salary on the only job I'm allowed to work would provoke a midnight run.
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kinship



Joined: 24 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Korea is a G20 "developed" nation so there is no reason to take a cut so someone else can line their pocket or make further profit at my expense.


This is a bad reason based upon a faulty assumption and way to general. Just because Korea is a G20 country doesn't mean that hagwon owners have tons of students attending their institution nor does it mean that schools get great bedgets to offer a higher wage.

Quote:
Korea is not the be all, end all for work outside of our home countries


Not even germane to the question at hand and you are way to bitter about Korea.
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kinship



Joined: 24 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukeday wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
So, get paid less simply for the pleasure of living in Korea?

This question makes no sense for me. I'm on an F5, so whether I'm employed or not, I'm able to live in Korea. I'm also able to work where/how I want.

But I'm guessing that doesn't fall into the narrow scope of the good Doctor's OP.


Yes, quite narrow, even though on a board for EFL/ESL teachers there are so few people with residence visas?

And was the OP even talking about the ability to live in Korea???


No I wasn't. I was merely addressing the question because it is an intereting topic. I have taken a reasonable pay cut and had one of my best years with my students.
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comm



Joined: 22 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kinship wrote:
Quote:
Korea is not the be all, end all for work outside of our home countries


Not even germane to the question at hand and you are way to bitter about Korea.

I think you'll find ttompatz to be less bitter about Korea than anyone on this board, and your overreaction is pretty telling.

His (valid) point is that there are many places with equally or more interesting culture, with equally or more in-need students, with equal or better treatment of / conditions for foreigners than Korea. And for many teachers (perhaps the majority) the reason to teach here rather than those other places is the competitive salary.
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