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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:29 pm Post subject: The State of the Union is Long |
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Here's a transcript of the full speech
Now I will post five things Obama said. Guess which four are true and which one is false!
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| Too many families who have never missed a payment & want to refinance are being told no. That�s holding our entire economy back. |
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| Today, skyrocketing costs price way too many young people out of a higher education, or saddle them with unsustainable debt. |
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| The 12 hottest years on record have all come in the last 15. Heat waves, droughts, wildfires, and floods � all are more frequent & intense. |
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| Tonight recognize there are communities in this country where no matter how hard you work, it�s virtually impossible to get ahead. |
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| Together, we have cleared away the rubble of crisis, and can say with renewed confidence that the state of our union is stronger. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'll go with the last one?
Did you watch Rubio's speech? That dude annoys me. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| The last one. And yeah, Rubio rubbed me wrong too. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
Did you watch Rubio's speech? That dude annoys me. |
The entire concept of a scheduled "response" to the state of the union address is intrinsically annoying. The state of the union address is a specific manifestation of a general requirement listed in the Constitution: the President is to "from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." All efforts should be taken to keep this a minimally partisan process, but a scheduled opposition response is intrinsically partisan in character; it demeans our nation simply by existing. Note that I'm not exclusively criticizing Republicans here: the state of the union response originated among Democrats, and it's no more laudable when they do it.
If particular content in the state of the union address is false, misleading, or otherwise faulty, by all means it should be discussed and corrected, but there are ways to do that other than the opposition party heckling the President's enactment of his constitutional duties with their partisan bickering. The expectation of a partisan "rebuttal" also makes the state of the union speech itself more inclined towards being partisan character, which is problematic in its own right. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Rubio wrote: |
| But if we can get the economy to grow at just 4 percent a year, it would create millions of middle class jobs. And it could reduce our deficits by almost $4 trillion dollars over the next decade. |
So tired of people who think unlimited, high-rate economic growth is a reasonable possibility over an unlimited span of time, such that it represents an option for solving our society's problems.
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| One of the best ways to encourage growth is through our energy industry. Of course solar and wind energy should be a part of our energy portfolio. But God also blessed America with abundant coal, oil and natural gas. Instead of wasting more taxpayer money on so-called �clean energy� companies like Solyndra, let�s open up more federal lands for safe and responsible exploration. And let�s reform our energy regulations so that they�re reasonable and based on common sense. If we can grow our energy industry, it will make us energy independent, it will create middle class jobs and it will help bring manufacturing back from places like China. |
Yes, instead of actually trying to innovate something more sustainable, let's just burn up our finite quantity of fossil fuels at an ever-increasing rate, pumping as much carbon as possible into the atmosphere, and then say, "Hey man, we can't control the weather," when it starts to go wrong. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
Yes, instead of actually trying to innovate something more sustainable, let's just burn up our finite quantity of fossil fuels at an ever-increasing rate, pumping as much carbon as possible into the atmosphere, and then say, "Hey man, we can't control the weather," when it starts to go wrong. |
That's the GOP mantra! And they think if they pass immigration reform, they'll become more widely accepted by voters again. Somehow I doubt that..
I used to admire the GOP for staying on message and thought it was an effective tool to winning votes (more attractive having a clear, strong message than not having one, which has often described the Democratic Party). I didn't realize they would stick to script that stubbornly. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:48 am Post subject: |
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More oil is c reated every day that geologic process has not stopped. Alternatives are fine but what do we do until they are developed?
I thought it was a good speech and it had a good vision. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
| More oil is c reated every day that geologic process has not stopped. Alternatives are fine but what do we do until they are developed? |
They have been developed and are continuing to improve. If Germany can use solar power effectively, I'm pretty sure the US can as well. And I'm not saying to stop drilling for oil or natural gas, just would be wise to continue to support alternatives.
You really thought Rubio's speech was good? It was the same crap his party has been saying for over a decade now. :yawn: |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| No Obama's. Rubios's nothing new. I am a suppoter of solar and wind but I jus do no think we can make the total transition right now. We have a few more years until we can get off oil. |
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