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ScribeAbroad
Joined: 23 Sep 2012
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 Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:28 am Post subject: Replaced two days before flying out |
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I'm pretty sure I know what folks will say to this, but I've got nothing better to do than ask, so why not.
As the title suggests, my recruiter dropped me two days before I was supposed to fly to Korea. I'd signed the contract, finally received my passport/visa back in the mail, quit my job, sold my car, yadda yadda yadda.
I'm not looking for a pity party, I just want to know, what am I supposed to do now? Has anyone else (or heard of someone else who's) experienced this?
Cuz, honestly, I'm up a creek and have no clue. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: |
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It isn't that bad, you can get another school. Try to get the documents back or use the same recruiter. You can be a little more demanding then because the recruiter knows you got shafted.
Don't give up so easily. |
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Times30
Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Recruiters shouldn't be able to do this.
Definitely create a fuss about this. Don't let them get away with this. |
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pattyb
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Replaced two days before flying out |
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that is B.S.
that is my secret fear and one reason I haven't made the leap. "throw away" everything for a job half way around the world and then you get screwed. There should be some law against this.
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I'm pretty sure I know what folks will say to this, but I've got nothing better to do than ask, so why not.
As the title suggests, my recruiter dropped me two days before I was supposed to fly to Korea. I'd signed the contract, finally received my passport/visa back in the mail, quit my job, sold my car, yadda yadda yadda.
I'm not looking for a pity party, I just want to know, what am I supposed to do now? Has anyone else (or heard of someone else who's) experienced this?
Cuz, honestly, I'm up a creek and have no clue. |
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NilesQ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'd just show up at the school anyway. If you already bought a ticket and have your visa processed, the school will"sell" you to someone in need. You will be on the ground with a valid, transferrable visa.
All of this is provided you have a bit of money to get through the first month or so. |
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KiwiRob
Joined: 05 Feb 2013
Location: Wellington, New Zealand.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| sorry to hear that man :\ |
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Wiltern
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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If the contract (presumably for a year) is signed by the school also, I would imagine it might be worth fighting through the labor board.
Let us know the recruiter. They deserve to be outed. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| so what was the recruiter's excuse for dropping you last second? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Replaced two days before flying out |
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| ScribeAbroad wrote: |
I'm pretty sure I know what folks will say to this, but I've got nothing better to do than ask, so why not.
As the title suggests, my recruiter dropped me two days before I was supposed to fly to Korea. I'd signed the contract, finally received my passport/visa back in the mail, quit my job, sold my car, yadda yadda yadda.
I'm not looking for a pity party, I just want to know, what am I supposed to do now? Has anyone else (or heard of someone else who's) experienced this?
Cuz, honestly, I'm up a creek and have no clue. |
The recruiter didn't drop you. He doesn't get paid until you are "at work" and you were 2 days away from that point in time.
The school hired someone who is "in country" that they thought would be a better choice then told the recruiter that you were not needed.
You and the recruiter were burned.
You have your visa in your passport?
If you are NOT American then no big deal really.
Order new documents, and start your search again.
Wait 90 days till the visa expires then get a new visa.
If you are American then you have problems since you would probably have a one year, multi-entry visa. You may have to pick a new country since dealing with your employment/visa issue/problem from abroad may be insurmountable.
At this point you really don't have any legal options or recourse.
You can simply try again or pick a new country.
If you do not have the visa in your passport and the visa confirmation number was issued then it is just a 90 day wait till it expires.
If a VCN was not issued then ask for your documents back and try a bunch of new recruiters.
(order a spare set as a backup - you never know when you will need them and they are hard to get when you are abroad).
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| If you are American then you have problems since you would probably have a one year, multi-entry visa. You may have to pick a new country since dealing with your employment/visa issue/problem from abroad may be insurmountable. |
I don't know how true this is. I would think you could get a D-10. If a recruiter helped you get a school and they paid for your flight to Korea, I think you could go to immigration and then show them what happened, go with a new employer.
Worse case scenario, ttompatz is right and you go to another country. If you want to be in Asia, paying for a flight from Korea would be a lot cheaper than from America and the chances a school would pay for a flight without some degree of certainty it would go through is less likely.
Before we had to wait 75% of a contract period, I don't see any rules which have bumped it to a year. |
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ScribeAbroad
Joined: 23 Sep 2012
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Thanks all for the replies.
Whether it was the school or the recruiter, the timing really makes me believe it was the recruiter. Where I live got hit by a massive snowstorm and the recruiter freaked out that the airport closed for a day and demanded I drive through the storm to the next nearest airport (several hours in normal weather). I tried to explain that it wasn't safe to drive and that by the time I would be leaving the airport would be back open. The next day when I told her my passport finally arrived (there had been consulate issues) she told me I'd been replaced.
Everyone else at the agency (Educon US) was super cool and helpful, just this one (Jinny) was the problem.
And, yeah, I'm an American and still in the US. And, yeah, there's a nice shiny new visa in my passport.
I did contact one of the other recruiters to see if she could help me out with another job, or at least get my documents back. I've also contacted a couple other agencies (Footprints, Teach Away) and am hopeful.
I think I'll be ordering some new docs anyway, just in case.
Thanks again everyone, it's been a trying several days. |
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Evanzinho
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: California
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^^The flaming (or in this case, frigid) hoops people jump through in order to teach English in Korea.  |
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JustinC
Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!
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| OP that sucks. Not really any help to you but it goes both ways; NETs will sign and say they're coming out then don't at the last minute, or say they'll re-sign then at the last minute don't. It's just part and parcel of the job at the moment. Don't give up, there are plenty more countries out there and they'll all have something better than Korea (and something worse, obviously). |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Replaced two days before flying out |
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| ScribeAbroad wrote: |
As the title suggests, my recruiter dropped me two days before I was supposed to fly to Korea. I'd signed the contract, finally received my passport/visa back in the mail, quit my job, sold my car, yadda yadda yadda.
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This is a good reason to just say no to Hagwon recruiters. Also don't accept a Hagwon job unless you are already in Korea with good savings actively looking for jobs with all your documents ready, and have multiple CBC's and Apostilled degree copies. |
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ScribeAbroad
Joined: 23 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Replaced two days before flying out |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
This is a good reason to just say no to Hagwon recruiters. Also don't accept a Hagwon job unless you are already in Korea with good savings actively looking for jobs with all your documents ready, and have multiple CBC's and Apostilled degree copies. |
Not to say that's not good advice, sounds good to me, just I was supposed to work for a public school. I should have mentioned that. |
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