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baedaebok



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Teaching kids for 43-year-old man Reply with quote

Here I am. Looking for a teaching job in Korea. I have a MA in TESOL and a lot of teaching experience (all with unit students).

I'm planning to refocus my career on teaching kids (eyeing teacher certification back in the US -- where I'm from). Would any hogwans take someone in their 40s?

If yes, could you give me some leads? I'm thinking of somewhere around Kwachon.

Be direct and pointed in your feedback.

BDB
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im 40 but Ive been here for a long time. Remember the first job can be fab, but its also your intro to Korea. YMMV
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching kids for 43-year-old man Reply with quote

baedaebok wrote:
Here I am. Looking for a teaching job in Korea. I have a MA in TESOL and a lot of teaching experience (all with unit students).

I'm planning to refocus my career on teaching kids (eyeing teacher certification back in the US -- where I'm from). Would any hogwans take someone in their 40s?

If yes, could you give me some leads? I'm thinking of somewhere around Kwachon.

Be direct and pointed in your feedback.

BDB


Only a fool would consider an entry level job in a hagwon if they had an MATESOL.

Get certified and move into the better international schools if you want to work with kids.

Look at public schools in Korea or China (net SAVINGS at the end of the year are similar, housing is better and you get less of the crap).

Look at lower tiered international schools in Thailand. Your MA will serve you well even without your teacher's license. (Top tier international schools will require that you are certified as a teacher). Pay ranges will be in the $2000+ range and they will have support for your child (tuition assistance and classes taught in English). The cost of living is also substantially lower so you will still be able to save about 1/2 of your salary.

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baedaebok



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:09 am    Post subject: Getting certified Reply with quote

I'm trying to get certified but I need some experience teaching kids which I don't have. I've only taught univ students. Are the jobs easier to get in Thailand than China? Where are the international schools in China or Thailand listed (top and middle and bottom-tierd)?

BDB
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching kids for 43-year-old man Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:

Only a fool would consider an entry level job in a hagwon if they had an MATESOL.



"An" is used before words beginning with a vowel only.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching kids for 43-year-old man Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
ttompatz wrote:

Only a fool would consider an entry level job in a hagwon if they had an MATESOL.



"An" is used before words beginning with a vowel only.



Correction:


"An" is used before words (or letters) beginning with a vowel sound.

... so "an em" is correct. So is "an M A" ...
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A grown male...teaching kids...is not a good idea in any country given all the accusations.
One puts themselves in a compromising position even when their intentions are honorable.
One innocent pat on the back type of thing can get blown out of proportion and then your life is over.
And with an advanced degree...why would a grown male want to teach children?
Having said that...many positions are available in the private sector...private language schools are always looking.....but unfortunately the pay is not any better than those with just a BA.
Your age will not be a factor...just depends of the school owner and how they like your looks!
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And with an advanced degree...why would a grown male want to teach children?


Yes why would a grown female want to do engineering or car mechanics, or any other job that would spoil her nail varnish? Come on guys, this is the 21st century. Just because you live in Korea doesn't mean you have to start thinking like they do. Crying or Very sad
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching kids for 43-year-old man Reply with quote

baedaebok wrote:
Here I am. Looking for a teaching job in Korea. I have a MA in TESOL and a lot of teaching experience (all with unit students).

I'm planning to refocus my career on teaching kids (eyeing teacher certification back in the US -- where I'm from). Would any hogwans take someone in their 40s?

If yes, could you give me some leads? I'm thinking of somewhere around Kwachon.

Be direct and pointed in your feedback.

BDB


A Masters in TESOL should make you eligible for university positions in Korea. Should also give you options in the Middle East.

Use what you've got for what it can get you. Don't try to make your qualifications fit where they aren't needed (ie: hagwons).
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting certified Reply with quote

baedaebok wrote:
I'm trying to get certified but I need some experience teaching kids which I don't have. I've only taught univ students. Are the jobs easier to get in Thailand than China? Where are the international schools in China or Thailand listed (top and middle and bottom-tierd)?

BDB


So apply for universities. That's where you have your experience.
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Kepler



Joined: 24 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reality is that most hagwons just want to hire cheap labor and couldn't care less about advanced qualifications. However, there are some higher paying hagwons out there such as Poly that might be interested in you. I think they pay up to 3 million won a month. Post a resume on Dave's and see what kind of responses you get. Don't be too picky about location and you'll probably find something.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So apply for universities. That's where you have your experience.


The guy said he wanted to teach kids. What's wrong with trying to get experience in the area you want to specialise in? It's good to get all kinds of experience under your belt as well, even if he's going to be aiming for international schools and US schools later .
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a grown male has no problem teaching kids. I have been doing it for years and so have older male friends. Stop spreading stereotypes that are plainly false. Female teachers sleep with their students also. Is that typical? I dont think so.
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A grown man teaching kids is absolutely fine. It's not only women that love children or want to teach them. What century are some of you people stuck in. I'm no spring chicken and I teach children at elementary school. The kids are great. I adore them and they adore me. All you have to be is human. In fact I recommend teaching kids in Korea. If I had to teach Korean adults I'd have quit and been gone long ago. Children bring laughter and memories of one's own happy childhood.

Don't be discouraged by naysayers.
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting certified Reply with quote

isitts wrote:
baedaebok wrote:
I'm trying to get certified but I need some experience teaching kids which I don't have . I've only taught univ students. Are the jobs easier to get in Thailand than China? Where are the international schools in China or Thailand listed (top and middle and bottom-tierd)?

BDB


So apply for universities. That's where you have your experience.


Fixed the bolding for you.
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