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JCT
Joined: 01 Nov 2011
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 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:32 am Post subject: Strange question about E-2 visas and working |
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Hi. I work at a hagwon, and my current contract on an E-2 visa ends in May. I want to stay in Korea longer, but I will not be re-signing with my school.
Long story short, my Korean girlfriend runs a hagwon. We've toyed with this idea for when my contract is over: I would apply for an E-2 with her hagwon and she does the paperwork for a 1-year E-2. I pay her for all the costs of it so her only hassle is the paperwork. The goal is to allow me to work here legally but have more freedom. I would have an E-2 but not actually teach at her school, or maybe teach one class per week or month and she would pay me to technically make it legal.
I would then be hypothetically free to go around to other schools seeing if they need part-time work and have more control over how much I work. Maybe this is a stupid idea, but we thought it was interesting if we could actually make it work.
We've thought of a few drawbacks to this plan, but we probably aren't seeing others. The obvious ones are the fact that since it's through my girlfriend, it could work out badly for me if things go south in the relationship. Also, schools are probably reluctant to hire E-2s that aren't part of their system. And finally, it's risky because I'd have to find my own place to live as well as pay for all the costs of the E-2 itself with no guarantee of finding work.
So basically, is this plan feasible, or is it a retarded idea? (sorry for not being PC...)
If it is possible, what other drawbacks am I not seeing?
Go easy on me. Thanks. |
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KiwiRob
Joined: 05 Feb 2013
Location: Wellington, New Zealand.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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can i have your job in may? Was it a good hagwon or terrible? Thanks  p.s sorry i cant help I am not in country yet. |
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tardisrider
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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In order for her to sponsor you on an E2, she will have to (among other things) provide a contract with minimum hourse, salary, etc.
Faking this would be fraud. Both you and she could get in big trouble if caught. The teaching for other hogwans which you are talking about is nothing more than teaching illegal privates. No reputable place would hire you.
No skin of my nose if you get caught, but it is what it is. Think this stupid plan through. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I would have an E-2 but not actually teach at her school, or maybe teach one class per week or month and she would pay me to technically make it legal. |
So, how do you see 1 class per week needed? If you don't need to do 25 classes, what would happen in this 1 class to justify not doing the other 24? Your plan has a lot of holes in it. This is just one that sticks out.
Second, what will she do for taxes, pension, and medical? She would have to report some minimum salary I assume for an E2. What if she is caught? It might be a bigger risk to her and her hagwon.
Third, why on earth would you want to work at another school if your girlfriend has a hagwon? It's not much of a partner if you only want to be there for 1 class. Another detail I can't wrap my head around.
Let's move on to the clincher.
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| I would then be hypothetically free to go around to other schools seeing if they need part-time work and have more control over how much I work. |
Having control is something I understand. Think of this like money though. You don't go out and party until payday, right?
You make sure you have something in the till before migrating out.
So, if this hagwon is successful, then it should have a list of F visa holders who can teach there. When you want to work, you don't call them to teach. This in theory would happen often, if not, maybe you should rethink your relationship and why you want an E2 there and not at another school.
Pushing the ball forward only works if there is a hole you want it to go into (golf analogy). You are meandering around pushing this ball (the bulk of your teaching hours) to some unknown hole (some school, not your girlfriend's by your own admission). I am not sure Tiger Woods or any other professional golfer would hit a ball until they knew exactly where they wanted it to go.
You are better off signing a part-time arrangement, finding cheap housing, and then talking with immigration to get your girlfriend's place as a second location the legal way. If you work a lot of hours at her hagwon, then you transfer. This is what I would do.
If you want it to be something where you wake up in the morning, kiss goodbye before heading off to work and doing your thing until 5pm, then maybe you should do that instead and not get an E2 through her. Your choice. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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You are also aware that you need permission from immigration for each new employer you add to your ARC (file an addition of workplace or status not covered application).
The extra employers cannot pay more than your sponsor nor can they allow you to work more than your primary employer.
If you want to work that way, get married and get an F6.
Then you only need to deal with the MOE and not immigration.
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