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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:55 am Post subject: |
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This is ridiculous...there are racists everywhere. In my country America, I constantly heard people telling Mexicans to go back home because they were ruining the country.
OP...I'm black, male, have several black friends who have taught here for many years, and none of us have experienced anything other than maybe someone not sitting next to us on the bus (which happens to all waygooks).
My school loves me, and are even lobbying for me right now to stay at my school (they were told I would have to change schools because of budget cuts)
My friends have similar experiences....hell, I even worked at a hagwon so don't believe the myth of all hagwons are racist.
Find a job you think you qualify for...apply...repeat until you find one that suits you. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| IamCourtney wrote: |
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| Interesting that its the non Black women who are painting the worse picture but the Black women who have posted have been the most positive. |
I was thinking the same thing. They are making it seem like Koreans are going to be waiting for black people with pitchforks when they arrive lol I've heard nothing but good things from my friends who teach in Korea, and they are black women. |
This has been a theme here for years on here, but look on the group on fb or talk to any of them, and most would be positive. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Chances for a Black female? |
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What are my chances of getting hired?
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You've got a good chance of finding work. The best bet is through the EPIK program. Korea is becoming a multicultural society, and this is reflected in the EPIK program's hiring practices. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:10 am Post subject: |
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To the OP
You will need to ignore the advice of a lot of people on here who aren't black. The truth is that there is discrimination but its no where near as extreme as people make it out to be.
I think what happens is that a lot of the white people that come to Korea have never experienced a situation where they have had to live as the cultural minority, and they assume that if things are going bad for them here, then people of color must have it worse. That's not really the case.
I've been here over 3 years and my community treats me very well. I heard that before I came, many of the moms were worried about having a black teacher because they were scared. After my first year the parents were my strongest supporters when the province wanted to cut my position.
I'm leaving my school and the parents had no problem interviewing and hiring another minority.
I do suggest that you do try to sugarcoat things when asked why you want to work here. If you're too stubborn to be polite, then you won't do well here.
Good luck and do join the group "Brothas and Sistas of South Korea" for more accurate information. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| shostahoosier wrote: |
| After my first year the parents were my strongest supporters when the province wanted to cut my position. |
They had black, and now they'll never go back... |
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HeatherG
Joined: 25 Feb 2013
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Excuse me for changing the topic somewhat, but does "waygook" simply mean "foreigner," or is it a derogatory term? |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| HeatherG wrote: |
| Excuse me for changing the topic somewhat, but does "waygook" simply mean "foreigner," or is it a derogatory term? |
"Waygook" is a foreigner-coined term to refer to themselves in Korea. Koreans would say "waygookin." Its as derogatory as you think the term "foreigner" is. |
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littletelly94
Joined: 02 Dec 2012 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:02 am Post subject: Re: Chances for a Black female? |
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What are my chances of getting hired?
And I've already looked up the cultural differences. I've lived in a foreign country before so readjusting to someone else's culture doesn't bother me. I majored in anthropology anyway so I'm extremely interested in other cultures and would love to visit neighboring Asian countries while (or if) I'm stationed in SK. |
As long as you qualify, the chances of you getting hired somewhere are near 100%. As a black female that has worked in three different schools, I can confirm this
I'll echo the sentiment that you should seek the opinions of actual black people about the issues they face.[/i] |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:01 am Post subject: |
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To the OP
You will need to ignore the advice of a lot of people on here who aren't black. The truth is that there is discrimination but its no where near as extreme as people make it out to be.
I think what happens is that a lot of the white people that come to Korea have never experienced a situation where they have had to live as the cultural minority, and they assume that if things are going bad for them here, then people of color must have it worse. That's not really the case.
I've been here over 3 years and my community treats me very well. I heard that before I came, many of the moms were worried about having a black teacher because they were scared. After my first year the parents were my strongest supporters when the province wanted to cut my position.
I'm leaving my school and the parents had no problem interviewing and hiring another minority.
I do suggest that you do try to sugarcoat things when asked why you want to work here. If you're too stubborn to be polite, then you won't do well here.
Good luck and do join the group "Brothas and Sistas of South Korea" for more accurate information. |
If you don't fit the right demographic, blond hair blue eyes and young, you can still make a great impression if the kids like you and you're reasonably friendly and presentable. This applies if you're black, white fat and bald, older, etc. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| EPIK seems to hire all races and body types with little discimination compared to before. If there's any discrimination remaining, it might be that I rarely see any older candidates anymore (40's to 60's). But that might be actual discrimination or that not many are applying and going elsewhere instead. Hard to say. |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreans living in America and Koreans in Korea are very distinct. Koreans in America dont have the social pressures to conform like they do here and the strict social hierarchy. Koreans in America have found more individuality. Hence, more acceptance of others. I agree that if you apply with a hagwon, you will find it a bit harder. I have had previous hagwon co-workers specifically ask me for "non black" teachers. Public schools are more accepting through Gepik and Epik. I've been here a long time and the number of black teachers has increased since I began. I think you have a better chance now than before to get hired. Korea is slowly changing. |
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tran.huongthu
Joined: 23 May 2011
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Pullout the race-card it works every damn time. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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For most white people here, it's the first time they really have encountered any kind of discrimination. But for the most part it's extremely minor stuff.
Koreans don't have most of the history associated with racism that is present in the west. Most of their stereotypes come mostly from American TV, the US army and movies. If they actually met a black person, possibly you, you can do a lot to help them learn more about you as a person. And help them dispel a lot of the notions they have about blacks that come from American mass media. |
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oceanhue
Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the help everyone. |
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