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T-dot
Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang
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 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Some teachers arent even worth the 15, 000 won to begin with.
If you are good, then it doesnt matter what another person does because the parents will continue to pay your asking price. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| It's really quite simple. The amount of F visa holders, the ones legally able to do privates, really hasn't grown significantly. It is extremely unlikely that an actually F visa holder is charging these kinds of low rates. I say let nature take its course.. |
No, it has grown. More people get married to Koreans each year (the total number increases, though some leave Korea).
Demophobe, a lifer, wrote that most Koreans know nothing about F-visas or the private tutoring laws, meaning they don't know one must have an F-visa to tutor.
Demophobe (definately more of an apologist than a basher) then went on to say the increase of Westerners coming to Korea (whether they teach privates or not) greatly impacts the market for F visa holders like him. The more often Koreans see a Westerner walking down the street (and it matters not if that person is a tourist, student, or straight laced E-2 holder) the less they percieve native English speakers as rare, and as a consequence the less per hour they will be willing to pay for private lessons. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| It's really quite simple. The amount of F visa holders, the ones legally able to do privates, really hasn't grown significantly. It is extremely unlikely that an actually F visa holder is charging these kinds of low rates. I say let nature take its course.. |
No, it has grown. More people get married to Koreans each year (the total number increases, though some leave Korea).
Demophobe, a lifer, wrote that most Koreans know nothing about F-visas or the private tutoring laws, meaning they don't know one must have an F-visa to tutor.
Demophobe (definately more of an apologist than a basher) then went on to say the increase of Westerners coming to Korea (whether they teach privates or not) greatly impacts the market for F visa holders like him. The more often Koreans see a Westerner walking down the street (and it matters not if that person is a tourist, student, or straight laced E-2 holder) the less they percieve native English speakers as rare, and as a consequence the less per hour they will be willing to pay for private lessons. |
it's grown but not significantly.
Last time someone told me there were "a lot", it was only something like 1000 total living in the country (westerners married to Koreans), and not all of them were doing private lessons. It doesn't have to be on Koreans to fix the problem, if F visa holders who are working legally are concerned about people working illegally driving down their rates, they can fix that just as easily.
I also think it is mostly the same guy posting, half the ads, though different, all mention being here for 6 years. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| I also think it is mostly the same guy posting, half the ads, though different, all mention being here for 6 years. |
hah, privates trolling apparently is a thing |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| mayorgc wrote: |
| equilibrium will be reached, $30/$40/$50 whatever it may be. Maybe it's less than the previous prices charged, but it's more fair to the consumer |
I'd rather be making good money than have an equilibrium be reached. (ㅠ_ㅠ)
I saw this on the International Board:
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One issue that seems to be hurting our industry is the Age of Austerity. Any educational program with government subsidies is feeling the squeeze and that gets passed on to us.
More long term, an issue that concerns me is the increase in globalization and technology. Once upon a time a 'native speaker' was a sought after commodity, a rarity. Now, through tech. everybody has got access to the whole world, including plenty of native speakers. I guess it's a case of adapt or die, but in the meantime I fear salaries will continue to go down. |
Those who get into emerging markets early are the ones who can make great money (supply and demand and all). Those who are late to the game will fare far worse. |
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