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Neozenha
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 Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:28 am Post subject: You need TEFL or experience now for EPIK? |
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Charlie Bourque
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| You need to have a 100hr TESOL with a 20hr in-class component to work for SMOE, GEPIK, and EPIK. To work specifically, you will need a 100hr TESOL with a 60hr in-class component. If you have at least 1 year of teaching experience, you don't need it, but this will likely change in the near future as the bar keeps getting raised. |
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Dodge7
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| Charlie Bourque wrote: |
| You need to have a 100hr TESOL with a 20hr in-class component to work for SMOE, GEPIK, and EPIK. To work specifically, you will need a 100hr TESOL with a 60hr in-class component. If you have at least 1 year of teaching experience, you don't need it, but this will likely change in the near future as the bar keeps getting raised. |
...and if you jump through that hoop all to just teach in Korea... wow. Pathetic. |
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Neozenha
Joined: 08 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Charlie Bourque wrote: |
| You need to have a 100hr TESOL with a 20hr in-class component to work for SMOE, GEPIK, and EPIK. To work specifically, you will need a 100hr TESOL with a 60hr in-class component. If you have at least 1 year of teaching experience, you don't need it, but this will likely change in the near future as the bar keeps getting raised. |
You serious?
Are there any other organisations like EPIK / GEPIK? |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| I looked into EPIK and GEPIK when I was first applying to come here and found their pay to be lousy and requirements too high for what you were getting out of it. |
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Neozenha
Joined: 08 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| nicwr2002 wrote: |
| I looked into EPIK and GEPIK when I was first applying to come here and found their pay to be lousy and requirements too high for what you were getting out of it. |
because you're too stupid to get through university? |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Neozenha, your reply to nicwr2002 is pretty insulting and doesn't hold water. What he mentioned was simply his opinion about the merits of EPIK/GEPIK - nothing wrong with that. I'm sure some people would agree. Not quite sure why you would ask such a question... are you simply suggesting that if you don't finish university it is because you're stupid? or that if he has graduated you are simply curious about his thought process? Maybe I'm missing something... please elaborate. |
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Neozenha
Joined: 08 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:55 am Post subject: |
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I don't care, these troll posts are annoying.
I'm asking a simple question and I want a reply to the question only. |
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Neozenha
Joined: 08 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Would doing a free TEFL course count towards anything? |
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| Charlie Bourque wrote: |
| You need to have a 100hr TESOL with a 20hr in-class component to work for SMOE, GEPIK, and EPIK. To work specifically, you will need a 100hr TESOL with a 60hr in-class component. If you have at least 1 year of teaching experience, you don't need it, but this will likely change in the near future as the bar keeps getting raised. |
...and if you jump through that hoop all to just teach in Korea... wow. Pathetic. |
It's not much of a hoop. The 20hrs are usually done over a single weekend from 8am-6pm.
Some people actually want to take the 100hr TESOL to help improve their teaching or to prepare themselves before going abroad. There's nothing pathetic about that. Needless to say, if you can't spend a weekend of in-class TESOL for the sake of a better job and slightly higher pay (100,000WON/mo), you probably aren't cut out for this work either. |
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Neozenha wrote: |
| Would doing a free TEFL course count towards anything? |
Yeah, you'll be better at your jobs. It's not going to get you a better job, or even better salary; however, the knowledge gained from this TESOL with help build a foundation for teaching. It's better than not doing anything and walking into a classroom without a clue what to do. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: You need TEFL or experience now for EPIK? |
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| Neozenha wrote: |
| Have they changed it now? |
Yes.
Announcement: "What's New", # 234, Dated 2012-8-1 on the EPIK website...
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Policy Preference for TEFL/TESOL Certificates:
In recent terms, the application process has gradually become more competitive. At this point, it is almost impossible for level 3 applicants to secure a position with the EPIK program. As such, the most common way for level 3 applicants to increase their qualifications would be to enroll in a TEFL or TESOL course.
Currently, we accept a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL certificate as a qualification criteria for level 2 or higher pay grade, regardless of how the course was taken. However, starting from the Fall 2013 term, when we recommend candidates to the POE/MOEs we will give a priority to the applicants possessing a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL with at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component, as opposed to those who only completed a strictly online course. We strongly advise you to take the TEFL or TESOL programs including at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component. However, Busan will only acknowledge TESOL/TEFL certificates that contain at least a 60 hour offline, in-class component. This decision was made to meet requests from the POE/MOEs and schools who wish to have the most qualified Guest English Teachers possible. |
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| I looked into EPIK and GEPIK when I was first applying to come here and found their pay to be lousy and requirements too high for what you were getting out of it. |
I have this thought.
Hagwon, pay 2.1m krw/30 classes. Often onsite from 9am - 7pm
EPIK, they no longer hire lvl-3 so.. pay 2.0 for 22 classes. At school from 8:30-4:30.
Extra classes (up to 6) @20k won per class can add up to 500k per month more so 2.5m krw for 28 classes.
Hagwon - 10 days paid holiday, often taken piecemeal.
EPIK - 18 working days. Some locations up to 23 work days per year (4-5 weeks). If you renew you add 2 more WEEKS of paid vacation time.
Hagwon - often taxed at 3.3% and often with NO NHIC medical or NPS (pension) benefits.
EPIK - NHIC medical AND NPS pension (refund at the end of your employment in Korea from the government - 9% of your total salary).
Also of note that unless you are Canadian you can be tax free for the 1st 2 years and if you are taxable the rate is about 1.7% of your income.
PS jobs may appear to have a lower pay scale but when you look at the complete remuneration package instead of just the base pay the picture looks a lot different.
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mayorhaggar
Joined: 01 Jan 2013
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| EPIK level 2 should be 2.2m Won now, that is what I'm making. (plus 200,000 extra for living in a rural town and teaching at 2 schools.) |
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isitts
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| Neozenha wrote: |
| nicwr2002 wrote: |
| I looked into EPIK and GEPIK when I was first applying to come here and found their pay to be lousy and requirements too high for what you were getting out of it. |
because you're too stupid to get through university? |
Um, no. That's not what s/he was saying. They were saying that the requirement to have taken a TEFL course or have prior teaching experience is a bit much (and perhaps a bit expensive for some starting out in the current economic climate) to justify being a Korean teacher's sidekick.
Even you, by the tone of your thread title and posts, seem to agree.
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| Charlie Bourque wrote: |
| You need to have a 100hr TESOL with a 20hr in-class component to work for SMOE, GEPIK, and EPIK. To work specifically, you will need a 100hr TESOL with a 60hr in-class component. If you have at least 1 year of teaching experience, you don't need it, but this will likely change in the near future as the bar keeps getting raised. |
You serious?
Are there any other organisations like EPIK / GEPIK? |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| isitts wrote: |
| Neozenha wrote: |
| nicwr2002 wrote: |
| I looked into EPIK and GEPIK when I was first applying to come here and found their pay to be lousy and requirements too high for what you were getting out of it. |
because you're too stupid to get through university? |
Um, no. That's not what s/he was saying. They were saying that the requirement to have taken a TEFL course or have prior teaching experience is a bit much (and perhaps a bit expensive for some starting out in the current economic climate) to justify being a Korean teacher's sidekick.
Even you, by the tone of your thread title and posts, seem to agree.
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| Charlie Bourque wrote: |
| You need to have a 100hr TESOL with a 20hr in-class component to work for SMOE, GEPIK, and EPIK. To work specifically, you will need a 100hr TESOL with a 60hr in-class component. If you have at least 1 year of teaching experience, you don't need it, but this will likely change in the near future as the bar keeps getting raised. |
You serious?
Are there any other organisations like EPIK / GEPIK? |
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That is exactly what I was implying in my post. I was merely stating that there are better options than going through those hoops just to land a job making 1.8 in the city like Seoul and making 2.0 maybe 2.1 in the country side. Those numbers may to be right exactly, but that's what I remember. |
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