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[rollo]

Why do these dogs need to leave Korea?? yeah help a person, out maybe.

i would rather donate to an orphange, and I have. Just not getting this.

[fionnjameson]

What I want to know is why these people are adopting out of Korea when they live in the US/Canada.

...you'd think shelters would abound there...

[lemak]

[newyorker]

Thanks for the support Steelrails and Lemark. I guess I won't delete this thread.

I try to help out where ever and when ever I can. And right now I can help a couple dogs in Korea.

I didn't think people would get so angry about this topic. I'll see how it goes.

Thanks!

[Captain Corea]

You never really addressed the legalities of it though, newyorker. Are you sure it's ok for someone to bring an animal in the US/Can that they know nothing about? That is not their own?

[newyorker]

It isn't illegal. The shelter arranges everything and there is a person on the other end to pick up the dog. The shelter is very thorough about the adoption process. If someone isn't comfortable bringing over a dog then they shouldn't do it.

The animals shelters in Korea do want people in Korean to adopt the animals but some times larger breeds are adopted outside Korea because they need more space/ outdoor space or a cooler climate etc.

[Captain Corea]

Don't the dogs need to go through quarantine? That the person bringing them over has to vouch for them and such? You're asking people to do that for an animal they don't know.

I mean, basically it sounds like you're asking ppl to "mule" animals to North America. Sounds funky to me.

Surely there has to be some responsibility on the person "importing" this animal into their country? Are you honestly telling me that customs simply says "Oh, this animal isn't yours, but you're bringing it over for a buddy. Ok... sure, here just go through this gate!"

People are responsible for everything they're bringing into the country - whether it's produce, drugs, souvenirs, or animals.

I really think there's more to the legalities than you are letting on.

[newyorker]

The dogs are all vaccinated and up to date with rabies shots when they are shipped so they aren't kept in quarantine. They are shipped with documents from a vet stating so. Canada and the US don't quarantine animals like they do in other countries like England.

If you are bringing a puppy over you don't need any documents. You can just walk through immigration.

It really isn't difficult to bring an animal in to the country (us and canada).A few years ago I moved from mainland Europe with two cats to Canada. I had their vaccinations up to date and when I arrived I walked through immigration with cats and no one said anything or even wanted to see their documents. I did however have to give up the cat food that I brought with me. They didn't even look at the cats.

I am not hiding anything about legalities, I am not here to trick or coerce people into doing anything they don't want to.

It is very easy to check the importation of animals on government sites for both US and Canada.

[Captain Corea]

Cool, that's actually very informative. Thanks.

I had thought there was much more to it when bringing an animal into the US or Can.

[Died By Bear]

[Janny]

newyorker, I applaud you. I'm sorry for all the negativity on this thread. What you're doing is noble, albeit difficult. I know it hurts to get criticized when all you want to do is something RIGHT.

What IS this confusion?? Do theses naysayers notice how animals are treated in Korea? With a small exception of animal lovers (Nabiya, ARK...) dogs and cats are treated either like accessories or like common vermin. Eating an octopus while it's still alive at the table. Dog soup.

I brought a rescue cat back to Canada with me. Every day I look at her and feel amazed and proud that I've given her a good life; she gives me undying devotion, love and companionship.

Anyway...to those who think this is "nuts": the hardest part is feeling the worry as you bring your animal to and from airports and wondering how they're doing in the transport cargo. If you have the paperwork in place (sounds like OP is on it) then everyone is really supportive on either end to see you n Fluffy to your destination.

Spending money on animal rescue in this country is God's work. I find it really "unevolved" if someone doesn't understand that and thinks PEOPLE need the money / help more. Hmm I won't even start on that.

[rollo]

hey Janny ever been to a slaughter house in a western country or seen factory farms and seen how pigs, and such are raised in the West?

yeah helping humans , really a bad idea. Unevolved? You do not teach English do you?

Not really negative at all, seems an okay idea, but the idea that the West is so enlightened about animal care, hmmm!!

[Janny]

Umm what does my idea of "unevolved" have to do with my ability to teach English? Is "unevolved" poor grammar? I'm surprised, because I have excellent grammar. I am just not going to internet-check my grammar on this one because everyone knows what I mean anyway.

It's my opinion. You have yours, whatever. We don't agree.

Yes, I understand what horrors go on in Western slaughterhouses. It is not really related to the majority opinions about respect for animals. The horrors of animal slaughter for meat consumption happen in practically every populous country in the world.

A dog is being beaten by its owner on a busy sidewalk. How would the reaction of people be different between an American street and a Korean street? Answer this question honestly and you will kind of understand a little more what I am thinking here.

Humans get a lot of help if they ask for it. Domesticated pets like dogs and cats don't have the same voice or power. Is this really so hard to grasp? Of course I would save a human life over a dog's. But we're talking about choices for lifestyle activities...like rescuing a shelter animal in a country that's not so nice to animals. Jesus.

[Janny]

Sorry. I sounded kind of shrill there.

Rollo, I like your posts overall, so there's that too.

Also, (maybe this should be an edit? whatev) "unevolved" would be poor syntax, not grammar. Another afterthought.

Carry on, animal lovers.

[rollo]

it's not the english it just that there is no "unevolved" i dont think the word exist. as an Anthropologist it would be impossible to be unevolved. But dont worry just my geekiness coming out.

personally i think thinking of people first would be more evolved.

Dog being beaten to deat on sidewalk or puppymills in Indiana. Choose.

I think you and others have a good heart and want to to good things but 'the we are better than those koreans is a little off putting. '

to Koreans and many Asians the fact that we dump our old people, put them in nursing homes or just ignore them is far worse than anything they do to animals/

My wife was just in shock when we were in the U.s and she found out about the old folks homes. it just disgusted her. it's all she could talk about, it really upset her.

Good luck with all this.