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Korean American Dual Citizen Interested in Teaching Position
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petezjunior



Joined: 22 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:31 pm    Post subject: Korean American Dual Citizen Interested in Teaching Position Reply with quote

May and am currently in the process of searching for a teaching position in Seoul for no more than one year. Basically, I have sent out numerous emails, posted my resumes on job boards, etc. I received an acceptance letter from Aclipse and Aclipse directed me to Chungdahm, where I am in the process of filing out my application for them. I am in search of a teaching position in Seoul (I know it is harder for me to get in if I have a preference). I was wondering...

1. Since I am a dual citizen (exempt from military service in 2012), is it legal for me to work in Korea as an English teacher without getting into trouble?

2. What recruiters have you guys applied to? Success stories? Failures? (Only for people with knowledge of dual citizens teaching in Korea please!)

3. Any further advice?

I also heard I do not need to do the finger print cbc crap that is required by a lot of the recruiters since I am a dual citizen.

I am in the process of applying to EPIK, GEPIK, Chungdahm
Applied to: YBM, Poly...

ANYWHERE ELSE???

Sorry for the annoying post, I have looked on google and Esl cafe for similar threads, but making another one will help me out a lot. Take care.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Korea does not recognize dual citizenship. You (I assume) would be viewed as a Korean. You may still be held responsible for completing your military service in that case.

I know of many "dual citizens" who thought entering Korea with their foreign passport would be ok, who wound up getting arrested at the airport and thrown into the army.
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newb



Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
I know of many "dual citizens" who thought entering Korea with their foreign passport would be ok, who wound up getting arrested at the airport and thrown into the army.


that must be an awesome feelin'!!!!! Shocked
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

newb wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
I know of many "dual citizens" who thought entering Korea with their foreign passport would be ok, who wound up getting arrested at the airport and thrown into the army.


that must be an awesome feelin'!!!!! Shocked


Some of those guys couldn't even speak Korean.
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bucket



Joined: 25 Oct 2012

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know it, you need to be born in United States between 1986-1990 (not completely sure of the years) in order to be recognized as a dual citizen. This law came into effect when President Noh was in office.

First thing to find out is if your parents decided to report you to the Korean govt. of your birth when you were born outside of Korea. Naturally, if they did so, your parents should have waived you of the military service.

For those that were forced into military duty were never waived of the service or overstayed their limit in Korea without reporting or...number of other possible reasons. Hence arrested and thrown into the army in Korea.

As for teaching jobs, you can use a recruiter (which I don't really recommend) or post resumes here or on other websites. If, and I assume, you can speak Korean fluently try using www.hunjang.com.
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staygold



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer your first question --- yes.

I work at Poly and I'm officially registered as a Korean teacher, but I'm treated like a foreign teacher and have no extra duties.

For recruiters, I recommend OK Recruiting and ESL Line!

It might depend on the school, but they might not need an FBI check. I got mine just in case, but I didn't need one after all. Your recruiters will still probably ask you for it though.

In case anyone was wondering, dual citizenship was legalized in Korea in 2011.

btw - Don't apply to EPIK unless you want to work in a rural province. To work in Seoul with EPIK (SMOE), you CAN'T have dual citizenship. Why? I was told that it makes the paperwork a hassle. Laughable reason.
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petezjunior



Joined: 22 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the help.

Im tired of all the "you might be sent to the military" nonsense. As stated in the thread, I was exempt from the military. As a matter of fact, I was legitimately exempt because of a surgery I received. Therefore, please refrain from posting anything regarding my duties to Korea in case I go.
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Los Angeloser



Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

staygold wrote:
It might depend on the school, but they might not need an FBI check. I got mine just in case, but I didn't need one after all.


I'm not surprised that there is still a special group allowed to skirt the system. The Education Ministry was suppose to close the loophole but I guess not. It didn't take very long to find a way around the new "law" or rule.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petezjunior wrote:
Thanks for all the help.

Im tired of all the "you might be sent to the military" nonsense. As stated in the thread, I was exempt from the military. As a matter of fact, I was legitimately exempt because of a surgery I received. Therefore, please refrain from posting anything regarding my duties to Korea in case I go.


I hope you understand that being Korean and not doing your military service (whatever the excuse) means that you'll probably never get a good job in Korea.
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petezjunior



Joined: 22 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone have any more info. on dual citizens? and good recruiters? thanks.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petezjunior wrote:
anyone have any more info. on dual citizens? and good recruiters? thanks.


It is called the search function or use google site:forums.eslcafe.com/korea good recruiters

Do not make me give you the 100+ page link on recruiters.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
staygold wrote:
It might depend on the school, but they might not need an FBI check. I got mine just in case, but I didn't need one after all.


I'm not surprised that there is still a special group allowed to skirt the system. The Education Ministry was suppose to close the loophole but I guess not. It didn't take very long to find a way around the new "law" or rule.


Yes, to legally teach at a hagwon or a public school even F-series holders have to submit paperwork. Not to immigration, but to MOE. Through some hagwons can be lax on submitting the papers to immigration. Hey, they are the ones risk fines.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are in a good position to get a public school position in Korea because you are Korean American. As far as the recruiters you need to contact a lot of them and see what you can get. Avoid the Hagwons unless somehow you would know whether or not it is a good one, which is not likely.
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fionnjameson



Joined: 11 Mar 2013

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young Clinton: Actually, it's more the opposite. Gyopos or Asian Americans have a harder time getting a good job because most places usually go for the blond hair-blue eyes combo.

OP: Can you speak Korean? And I don't mean the tourist crap. I mean, can you hold a five minute conversation with a fellow co-worker? The only reason they'd hire you was if you spoke Korean fluently. If not, then you're pretty much behind the white folks in line.

Also, OP, you ARE aware that you only hold dual citizenship until the age 21?

The Government of the Republic of Korea does not permit dual citizenship after the age of 21. Taken from here

So..uh...I don't know what kind of crap you've been fed, but your dual citizenship holds as much power as a sheet of Xerox paper with poo smeared on it.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fionnjameson wrote:
Young Clinton: Actually, it's more the opposite. Gyopos or Asian Americans have a harder time getting a good job because most places usually go for the blond hair-blue eyes combo.

OP: Can you speak Korean? And I don't mean the tourist crap. I mean, can you hold a five minute conversation with a fellow co-worker? The only reason they'd hire you was if you spoke Korean fluently. If not, then you're pretty much behind the white folks in line.

Also, OP, you ARE aware that you only hold dual citizenship until the age 21?

The Government of the Republic of Korea does not permit dual citizenship after the age of 21. Taken from here

So..uh...I don't know what kind of crap you've been fed, but your dual citizenship holds as much power as a sheet of Xerox paper with poo smeared on it.



I think the information at your link is outdated...


http://askakorean.blogspot.kr/2010/02/becoming-korean-citizen-update.html
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