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The New Requirement to work in Korean Colleges
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88Sparky



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:29 am    Post subject: The New Requirement to work in Korean Colleges Reply with quote

Hello everyone!

The new requirement to work at a college in Korea is you now have to have a Master's Degree. (I think the Master's can be in any speciality.) It doesn't matter if you have 5 years experience or even 10 years of teaching experience.

I know this because I have a friend who was able to get a college job, then she lost her job due to the new law.
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optik404



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems fair enough
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: The New Requirement to work in Korean Colleges Reply with quote

88Sparky wrote:
Hello everyone!

The new requirement to work at a college in Korea is you now have to have a Master's Degree. (I think the Master's can be in any speciality.) It doesn't matter if you have 5 years experience or even 10 years of teaching experience.

I know this because I have a friend who was able to get a college job, then she lost her job due to the new law.


I don't know if this is necessarily true. Universities get more money and have more prestige if all their teachers have an M.A. I know of instructors who don't have an M.A. and are teaching at a university. However, it's becoming much less common to see a uni teacher without an M.A.
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: The New Requirement to work in Korean Colleges Reply with quote

88Sparky wrote:
Hello everyone!

The new requirement to work at a college in Korea is you now have to have a Master's Degree. (I think the Master's can be in any speciality.) It doesn't matter if you have 5 years experience or even 10 years of teaching experience.

I know this because I have a friend who was able to get a college job, then she lost her job due to the new law.


Do you have a source for this info?
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premiummince



Joined: 23 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not true.
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crescent



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: The New Requirement to work in Korean Colleges Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
I don't know if this is necessarily true. Universities get more money and have more prestige if all their teachers have an M.A. I know of instructors who don't have an M.A. and are teaching at a university. However, it's becoming much less common to see a uni teacher without an M.A.

This.
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I dont think its true. I know two guys who are just married to locals and they do it.
they want that prestige to the MA but when the people who they hire are just qualified but not experienced with Korea (knowing what their job REALLY is).

Japan has a requirement for quite a few esl jobs they want someone with some or good Japanese proficiency. Korea will eventually have to ask for that, although there are very few Korean speaking NETs. The parents etc think a NET who doesnt speak Korean will be a better teacher, but its just not true. Not only do the Korean speaking NETs (to whatever level) understand where the students are lacking, they can have empathy and thatll assist the learning process.

Of course, empathy is little to nonexistent in the Korean mindset. Lack of a Good Samaritan concept and law and resulting bullying and cronyism is surely a culture impedance.

but anyway..
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happiness wrote:
Japan has a requirement for quite a few esl jobs they want someone with some or good Japanese proficiency. Korea will eventually have to ask for that, although there are very few Korean speaking NETs.


Not in ESL myself but I can imagine this coming about eventually. Planning to formally study Korean beginning in the next month or two, actually, as employers for the type of work I do tend to favor bilinguals (for the silliest reasons).

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The parents etc think a NET who doesnt speak Korean will be a better teacher, but its just not true. Not only do the Korean speaking NETs (to whatever level) understand where the students are lacking, they can have empathy and thatll assist the learning process.


Understanding even some basic Korean can clue a teacher in as to why Korean students make the common mistakes that they do. And that can help with the explanation (which probably should be delivered in the L2 above the beginner level).

There was a thread a while back about the common mistakes made and misunderstandings held by Koreans when it comes to English. When people weren't arguing about whether "pension" belonged on it, it actually was a productive thread. Hopefully the thread starter's goal was to publish a book based on the various responses.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this BS for 2.0 million won a month? If it were 4.0, getting a Master's might be worth it.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say 'jump', we say 'how high?'.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The parents etc think a NET who doesnt speak Korean will be a better teacher, but its just not true. Not only do the Korean speaking NETs (to whatever level) understand where the students are lacking, they can have empathy and thatll assist the learning process.


Understanding even some basic Korean can clue a teacher in as to why Korean students make the common mistakes that they do. And that can help with the explanation (which probably should be delivered in the L2 above the beginner level).


Swings and roundabouts. Inexperienced Korean speaking NETS may have a better idea of what lies behind the students' mistakes but they also tend to use L1 too much in class.
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's the "prestige" in an MA in Korea when probably 90 percent of the MA's have a dubious pedigree.

MA from a reputable university with real standards, sure.

On-line MA from some uni in OZ no one has heard of...... sorry, no cigar.
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Soldier



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Link please Reply with quote

Would you have a link that it is the law that all university teachers, especially ESL teachers have to have a master's degree or higher? When and where was it legislated by the National Assembly?
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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that a 4-year degree in Education and a licensed teacher would be more desirable than most you master degree holding basket weavers.
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Soldier



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:01 pm    Post subject: You could.... Reply with quote

Triple the salary,
offer tenure,
raise the academic requirements to to a Post Doc in an ESL field,
require a minimum of 25 years teaching experience, and
a minimum of a dozen publications together with several text books.

Now you have a real university professor.

Cheers!!!!
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