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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| I think what puts China and Korea down on the list are the following: |
You didn't actually read the source of the survey did you?
It's so far removed from that. |
The link didn't work when I clicked on it. |
last post on the first page, I drew a map to the study and the source.
It doesn't seem to have been done in a practical way that would generate useful results and seems to be mostly made up and utterly useless. Ripe for slow news days. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Is it rudeness or a lack of manners, more ignorance (i.e. not holding doors open for the next person)?
I'm not sure it is intentional. And it is to everyone, not just foreigners. |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I've experienced amazing hospitality in France, Vietnam, and throughout the Middle East. |
I've experienced amazing inhospitality in France and Vietnam. I haven't really been to the middle east, just Turkey and Morocco (both super friendly). I actually speak very good French now and I enjoy French culture, but the Parisians were, on the whole, huge A-holes to me. Asking for directions, I was generally ignored with zero eye contact. I also got kicked out of a sandwich shop for asking for no mayo.
I also found the Vietnamese to be very inhospitable, and I spent around a month there. I got screamed at three times for going into a shop and then leaving without buying anything. "Why you come in no buy?!?!" Chased out the door.
I don't think Koreans are necessarily inhospitable to tourists, I just don't think there is much if anything to see here. I was talking with a guy who works in tourism here though, and he said business was alright. But he also said a lot of it revolves around those pathetic people who idolize K-pop and Korean dramas. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| When I first arrived in Seoul, needing help with directions, I was impressed by the number of Koreans - of all ages - who kindly went out-of-their-way (sometimes several blocks) to help me get to my destination. |
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ewlandon
Joined: 30 Jan 2011
Location: teacher
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| i dont understand how morocco is better than korea. THe touts in Morocco can lead to a very unpleasant time for many people. |
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ewlandon
Joined: 30 Jan 2011
Location: teacher
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Also some kid followed me around calling me a dirty american jew for 30 minutes because I wouldn't let him take me to his uncles barber shop. |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| i dont understand how morocco is better than korea. THe touts in Morocco can lead to a very unpleasant time for many people. |
I was the one who said that. Tangier is a little sketchy but my experience traveling around the rest of Morocco was wonderful. At least five people a day would say, "Hello, my friend, welcome to Morocco" to me. That certainly doesn't happen here. Everyone I recall meeting was friendly and helpful as well, but it was just a couple of weeks. Sure, they might bug you about buying a rug... but to me that's better than Koreans trying to force you to eat their food.  |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Jondo
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/14/travel/friendly-countries/index.html
But i'd rather be in SK than Pakistan! |
Why do you say that? Why did Pakistan suddenly come into the equation? It sounds arrogant and ignorant.
Pakistanis are very friendly, kind and even though they have a long history to be proud of, they are still humble and not pathetically self deluded. Which is more than I can say for certain others. Besides, the women are naturally beautiful and the men are handsome. Also, they are highly intelligent, well mannered, relatively well educated and don't need ESL since they already speak English fluently.
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Jondo
Joined: 08 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: South Korea Ties for Most Unfriendliest Country for Tour |
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Tourists are the best judges of a society since they are new to the norms. So I agree. It doesn't come as any surprise to me that both Koreans and Chinese are considered most unfriendly. Unfriendly means, rude, bad tempered, ill mannered, self conceited, hostile, in your face, offensive, insulting for no reason (ie. smirking and cursing you behind your back for speaking English in a normal tone to your friend as you pass by them) and inconsiderate (ie. turning a corner and then coming straight at you from the opposite end of the street when you obviously have the right of way and then making you get out of "your" way for them, barging into you and not apologising, cutting you off at the Van Gogh exhibit when it's your turn to see a painting and then taunting you when you call them on it, grabbing your jacket and pulling you up the subway stairs cos you told them to watch it after they rudely got in your way and then barged into you etc etc) |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Tourists are the best judges of a society since they are new to the norms. So I agree. |
It doesn't look like they actually asked any tourists..
seriously people take 2 seconds and read the actual study before spouting off.
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| Unfriendly means, rude, bad tempered, ill mannered, self conceited, hostile, in your face, offensive, insulting for no reason, smirking and cursing you behind your back for speaking English in a normal tone to your friend as you pass by and inconsiderate (ie. turning a corner and then coming straight at you from the opposite end of the street when you obviously have the right of way and then making you get out of "your" way for them, barging into you and not apologising), cutting you off at the Van Gogh exhibit when it's your turn to see a painting and then taunting you when you call them on it, grabbing your jacket and pulling you up the subway stairs cos you told them to watch it after they rudely got in your way and then barged into you etc etc) |
This is not the only meaning of "friendly" or "unfriendly". It's also used in the service industry to indicate that something is convenient or easy to use.
The wording is ambiguous the methodology is flawed..but hey..don't let that stop people from jumping on the band wagon. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/14/travel/friendly-countries/index.html
But i'd rather be in SK than Pakistan!
Why do you say that? Why did Pakistan suddenly come into the equation? It sounds arrogant and ignorant.
Pakistanis are very friendly, kind and even though they have a long history to be proud, they are still humble. Which is more than I can say for certain others. Besides, the women are naturally beautiful and the men are handsome. Also, they are highly intelligent, well mannered, relatively well educated and don't need ESL since they already speak English fluently. |
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/asia-oceania/pakistan
^ Although I know that in every country there are *bad* people, in this country if you meet a *bad* person esp if you hold a certain passport, bad things happen to you!
I also remembering watching this episode
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/332180
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/asia-oceania/
I was just looking here ^ for SK - it's missing! One for NK though!
Maybe the Embassy is hastily upgrading the 'threat' level to that of Pakistan!
OMG OMG OMG - get out now! |
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Burndog
Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: South Korea Ties for Most Unfriendliest Country for Tour |
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| JondoTourists are the best judges of a society since they are new to the norms. So I agree. It doesn't come as any surprise to me that both Koreans and Chinese are considered most unfriendly. Unfriendly means, rude, bad tempered, ill mannered, self conceited, hostile, in your face, offensive, insulting for no reason (ie. smirking and cursing you behind your back for speaking English in a normal tone to your friend as you pass by them) and inconsiderate (ie. turning a corner and then coming straight at you from the opposite end of the street when you obviously have the right of way and then making you get out of "your" way for them, barging into you and not apologising, cutting you off at the Van Gogh exhibit when it's your turn to see a painting and then taunting you when you call them on it, grabbing your jacket and pulling you up the subway stairs cos you told them to watch it after they rudely got in your way and then barged into you etc etc) |
Cool story bro...needs more wizards.
Lived in Korea for ofur years...never had anything remotely similar happen. I mean...being dragged up subway stairs by your jacket? Are you five? |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:34 am Post subject: |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/14/travel/friendly-countries/index.html
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Among the extensive analyses, one of the most interesting rankings was how welcome tourists are in each country, under the category "Attitude of population toward foreign visitors."
And the world's most unfriendly country, according to the data?
Bolivia took the dubious honor, scoring a 4.1 out of seven on a scale of "very unwelcome" (0) to "very welcome" (7).
Venezuela and the Russian Federation were next.
Interestingly, despite their huge tourist arrivals, South Korea and China tied with four other countries for the eighth least friendly spot. |
there isn't anything wrong with the transport, accommodation, food, scenic mountain temples... so it must be something else.LOL |
Accommodations are a problem. Chinese tourists are having to stay outside of Seoul due to a lack of affordable hotels. They're bussing in from as far as Daejon. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:51 am Post subject: |
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i have thought about it, and i honestly can't think of a single country where the locals working in the tourist industry were friendly to foreign tourists. in most cases, they collectively seem to be on a mission to part you with every cent you have by whatever means possible, including scamming you.
lao-horrible experience, they seemed incapable of smiling. it's like being in an asian horror movie where everyone is possesed by an angry spirit.
thai-my favorite country, but i still get a wrong bill(always charging more than was advertised, never less, hence not honest mistake)usually every day
europe-the people were ok, unless they worked at a hostel, restaurant or bar, then you pretty much want to throw a drink in their face
philipines-i've never seen so many people with guns in all my life. and the food was so horrendous i don't even have the words to describe.
india-OMG. NEVER AGAIN! (unless desperately needed to lose 5 kilos in less than week)
i honestly think that if i didn't live in korea and flew in and went straight from the airport to the country side and my idea of a good time was eating local food and hiking to buddhist temples, korea might be the best experience out there. |
I have some Korean acquaintances who just visited Laos and thought the people there were incredibly friendly.
Just goes to show you how subjective these things can be. And then there's the whole adventurer vs. tourist thing. |
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