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slothrop
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| RU freaking serious? the US military is going to evacuate every foreigner from korea, regardless of nationality, but they won't take the korean spouses of US citizens? |
What evidence do you have that the US government intends to evacuate all foreigners from Korea? Now, let's also remember that (technically) it's not just the US forces in Korea; it's the UN forces. So, countries involved in the UN...let's call it effort in Korea might have legitimate claim to have their citizens transported by another member of that effort (i.e., the US).
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| and how many korean spouses of US citizens in korea right now already have their greencard? maybe a few visiting relatives? |
There might be a fair number. After all, there are a number of Korean spouses of the US military members stationed in Korea now who just happened to have been stationed in the US and accompanied there with their Korean spouses.
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| LOL the green card is for people that LIVE in the US. |
It's also for people who were admitted as permanent immigrants and lived in the US and then, for one reason or another, moved overseas.
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| there is no "haven't gotten a green card yet" scenario for korean spouses of US citizens in korea. |
Actually, there is. If the US sponsor isn't going to be living in the US any time soon, then the dependent family member can't get an immigrant visa yet.
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| once they grant you a marriage visa you've got like 3 months to move to the US or lose it. |
Interesting concept. You wouldn't happen to have anything along the lines of proof for this would you? Plus, as mentioned above, the dependent family member isn't going to be getting an immigrant visa until and unless the sponsor will actually be residing in the US soon. I'm not doubting you that much, actually. I'm just so familiar with the US government taking ages and ages and ages to process stuff.
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| and the green card is for foreigners who have already lived in the US a long time. |
It can also be for a dependent family member who recently immigrated and then joined the sponsor overseas without going through the Expeitious Naturalization Program. One reason for that could be that the sponsor is on a non-command sponsored tour and thus the family member is not eligible for the ENP.
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| i think you must have your terms confused. |
I'm betting they're not the only one confused.
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| i think what you probably mean is your friend who considers herself married to a korean because they had a ceremony |
In Korea, legally the ceremony is absolutely meaningless. If all they did was have some ceremony then, by law, they are not married.
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| can not have him evacuated because either 1.they haven't reported their marriage to the US embassy or maybe even 2.they haven't even filled out the forms in korea to be legally married. |
For a foreigner to "fill out the forms to get married," in Korea, of course, they have to do the embassy thing (giving rise to the wide-spread misconception that one actually gets married at an embassy).
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| or 3.they won't evacuate korean men married to US citizens because they WILL BE DRAFTED. |
You know, that could very well be the case. I can see why a country at war would be a bit miffed if another country was carting off the first country's military force. |
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Scorpion
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:02 am Post subject: |
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there'll be no evacuation when the nukes hit.
My wife told me I can take our 6 month old daughter to America because my family wants to me to come back because of all the threats. They are sure something is going down. But they read Drudge, and he plasters fear-mongering headlines in 50 point font everyday about N Korea. Like you, I just can't leave her behind and not to mention all the money I'd lose out on that would take me a year to recuperate because she would probably have to take another loan out just to get by in my absence. |
LOL. Xians worried about holding onto their lives....and their money.  |
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slothrop
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
there'll be no evacuation when the nukes hit.
My wife told me I can take our 6 month old daughter to America because my family wants to me to come back because of all the threats. They are sure something is going down. But they read Drudge, and he plasters fear-mongering headlines in 50 point font everyday about N Korea. Like you, I just can't leave her behind and not to mention all the money I'd lose out on that would take me a year to recuperate because she would probably have to take another loan out just to get by in my absence. |
LOL. Xians worried about holding onto their lives....and their money. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, slothrop. As I said, I didn't really doubt you, just wanted some kind of proof.
And, yeah, I'm fairly certain my impression that it's UN forces-connected countries is the case. I don't think we'll see the PRC citizens in South Korea getting evacuated by the US!
Hey, I just checked the Evaucations page of the Canadian Embassy in Seoul. Here's what they say:
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| Canada sometimes coordinates evacuation assistance with other countries such as Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. |
So, maybe it's just the other countries are going to pay ("coordinate with") the US to evacuate their folks and their folks have to repay their country back for the travel.
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Drew10
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The fiancee visa is good for 3 months. The spousal visa is good for up to 2 years (there are conditions, but generally good for up to 2 years). After 2 years the immigrant spouse us basically forced to adjust status to a green card.
Check the uscis website. |
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slothrop
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:29 am Post subject: |
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diver
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Canada only requires a marriage certificate, I can't imagine why the us wouldn't want the same. |
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Kiwigoddess
Joined: 07 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| "we are monitoring developments on the Korean peninsula closely but at this stage we are not considering any plans to evacuate". |
And CNN will report this as "today government officials discussed evacuation for the first time since the crisis began." |
You're probably right LOL its not unlike the media to distort the the truth  |
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Alias77
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hopefully things will smooth out, but I too was wondering about this situation. From the US Embassy site, Korean spouses without citizenship are not guaranteed evac priveleges.
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What about my family and friends who are not U.S. citizens? Will you help them depart the country?
During a crisis, our priority is assisting U.S. citizens. You should not expect to bring friends or relatives who are not U.S. citizens on U.S. government chartered or non-commercial transportation. Exceptions may be made to accommodate special family circumstances, such as when the spouse of a U.S. citizen is a legal permanent resident, or �green card� holder; however, it is the non-U.S. citizen�s responsibility to be sure he or she has appropriate travel documentation for the destination location. Any services provided to non-U.S. citizens are on a space-available basis after U.S. citizens are accommodated. |
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What about my pets? Will the U.S. government transport them?
In general, we are not able to provide transportation assistance for your pets. If the pet can fit into an under-the-seat carrier, it can accompany the traveler. U.S. citizens traveling or residing abroad with pets should make alternate plans for their care or commercial transport if a crisis occurs abroad. |
This is the link to the page with additional bullets of information regarding emergency evacuations: http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/emergencies/emergencies_1212.html |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Not sure how evacuation would work. I'd imagine about the first things the Norks would take out are Incheon and Gimpo.
Anytime the Norks start lobbing threats to turn DC into a "sea of fire" etc Drudge goes absolutely nuts banging the war drums. People who get their news solely from Drudge (a frighteningly large number exist) will have a majorly distorted view of the world. |
Drudge simply provides links to news that the American media refuse to cover. |
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