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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I think you mis-understand what taking the job less seriously means.
It's a kindergarten class. You can't expect strict behavioral techniques
to go over well with them.
What it means is "relax", do your best but don't beat yourself up about it.
As for the boss, just smile say OK and then ignore everything he/she just
said. If it gets too bad, you can quit. But just give it a bit more time.
It took me 3 months before I got on to what I should be doing. |
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lunknot
Joined: 09 Apr 2010
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
I think you mis-understand what taking the job less seriously means.
It's a kindergarten class. You can't expect strict behavioral techniques
to go over well with them.
What it means is "relax", do your best but don't beat yourself up about it.
As for the boss, just smile say OK and then ignore everything he/she just
said. If it gets too bad, you can quit. But just give it a bit more time.
It took me 3 months before I got on to what I should be doing. |
+1
You will grow as a person if you stay the entire year. Don't return home before you really give teaching in Korea a chance. At least stay for 6 months....anyway my advice:
#1 Buy Niacin, L-tryptophan, and 5-HTP from iherb.com Take niacin and 5-htp in the morning and L-tryptophan at night. You'll feel better immediately.
#2 Start kinder classes with games. reward good behavior with a sticker or something else they like.
#3 Relax. Listen to your hagwon boss if their comments seem reasonable and you feel you were indeed slacking, change your approach; if you feel they are out of their goddamn mind SNIP - smile, nod, ignore, proceed. |
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i_teach_esl

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Location: baebang, asan/cheonan
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| youtube videos of "whole brain teaching," "tpr," "young learners," and "kindergarten classes." Watch youtube videos of "super simple songs." And don't be afraid of repeating the same activity over many different classes: young children like patterns and repetition, it's why they always say "again, again!" after you play a video or play a game. |
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i_teach_esl

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Location: baebang, asan/cheonan
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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establish routines now. i begin each kindergarten class with the alphabet song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XYQd_sJVzk and end each class with the goodbye song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tCSl_2ykgs Watch youtube videos of nanny911 and/or supernanny to learn how to talk to small children.
Teach them rule number one is to look and listen. Point to eyes when you say "look" and point to ears when you say "listen." Do it every time they chatter too much: you say, "Class, rule number one?" They answer and gesture, "look and listen." Do it over and over and when they quiet down, you say "Good job!" with a very happy face. use the same very simple phrases when you speak to them. they dont understand english, but they'll understand the simple phrases if you gesture and use them over and over again. My students understand sit down, please be quiet, look and listen...
i used this "big/small" activity (tho i don thave the cd, i just sing) before i have them sit down and read a story or do flashcards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUHkinRy6bM
on the board, i have three cut outs: tom on one end, jerry on teh same side, and cheese at the other end. I tell them if they do well, i move jerry closer to teh cheese. When they misbehave, i move tom closer to jerry. If jerry makes it all the way to teh cheese by the end of class, they get a sticker. This, like all class routines, work if you are consistent. Every time the class finishes a task, i say, "Good job!" and move jerry over. they get really excited.
also: remember what a 5 year can and can't do. You cant expect them to write whole sentences or pay attention for long periods of time. Get familiar with how 5 year old act, and then adjust your teaching accordingly. Teaching kindy can be so much fun once you get the hang of it. Best of luck, OP. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| chrisblank wrote: |
Sounds like you may be dealing with some culture shock. Remember, culture shock wears off in about 3 months.
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For me it comes and goes no matter how long I am somewhere. Now it seems like a permanent, varying in intensity, aspect of my experience no matter where I am. And it surely occurs when you return to your native land as well. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| Don't take the job that seriously to be honest. Unless you are teaching at a university or a good hagwon I wouldn't take the job so seriously. |
That is unethical advice. If you do that you will be shortchanging the kids (and the parents who paid big money for their kids to learn English). Plan ahead for lessons and do a good job. Then you can hold your head high knowing you did the right thing. Or...if you don't like working there and it is causing you mental grief, leaving is an option. Maybe your replacement will be a better fit for the situation. But don't just give the pretense of teaching English while really doing a bad and slack job. That is like stealing (from the parents and from the kids' future). |
Kindy bosses don't give two cents about what you teach in the class. I tried to teach seriously when I was at a Kindergarten my first year and they didn't care for it. They just wanted me to get in the front of the class and dance and basically be like a clown. My advice in not taking it so serious is don't worry about things. Don't try to do too much that is really unnecessary for kindergarten. That's why I did change my job and now working at a wonderful hagwon that cares for my input. I work hard and always teach the kids to the best of my abilities. |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:47 am Post subject: |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:49 am Post subject: |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:53 am Post subject: |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Going home isn't a defeat. Some people don't fit with this country, it's not utopia. Some people are too nice to survive here. Actually there are some people that are too good to be here. Their decision to go home might be the smart move. |
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watergirl
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Ansan, south korea
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:44 am Post subject: |
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WOW!!!
I'm sorry, but Dodge whatever and Augustine.. really kinda sucky, mean comments.. Social skills I'm guessing shouldn't be first on your resumes, and I'm also going to guess, lacking social skills speaks somewhat on your probable teaching skills, so if you don't have anything nice to say, why don't u just not say anything at all?
Anyways, poster, your first few weeks are always really hard, and kindergarteners are probably the hardest. I usually never like my kids at all for the first few weeks, but have ended up really adoring them.
It sounds like your bosses are not that great either.
So, that age group is difficult.
I use a lot of songs in the beginning of class with this age. Do u have a tv or even a computer in the class? youtube has tons of songs for learning english..
Some ones I like.. 'paint the paint is pink', 'ten little numbers', 'the little snowflake' 'the phonics song' If u can play songs, this will make your time with them so much better, and u can message me for more. When you're playing them, u can pause, and ask 'what's that? what colour..? etc, so u r still teaching somewhat.
Also, stickers!!. After songs, I write the kids name on the board, and if they raise their hand and guess things (easy stuff..what colour? etc, they get a a check beside their name. At the end of class, it will be a sticker.
This calms the kids down, and they sit more quietly, and learn to get used to school. They really care about stickers.. It doesn't even make sense.
You should have a more specific post asking for ideas for their ages, because if they're 5 or 7 makes a difference, and there are helpful people on here who have experience teaching.
Things like using a pencil sharpener or even keeping books on their desk r hard for kids this age. They don't have the motor skills, so maybe u could just have extra sharpened pencils for them.
If they're breaking the pencils on purpose, u simply tell them not to do it, and if they keep doing it, put a sad face beside that kids name and erase one of the child's check marks, so they lose the sticker.
Kids this age r difficult, but they (most) do learn to copy or follow rules easily. They will start 'enforcing' the rules to other kids after awhile, (so cute)
Maybe, u can message me for other ideas, but get a sticker system in place fast. |
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kimchi_pizza
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Deep breath OP,
You must be calm, be positive and be in control of yourself first and foremost; students are a reflection of your anxiety and nervousness. If you
seriously can't get ahold of yourself, how can you expect to get ahold of young ones.
Recognize your fallibility/inexperience and if you seriously can't adjust, then do your best and go home, for YOUR and your students' sake at the end of
your contract.
No shame in it, this teach'n business isn't cut out for anyone regardless of
their experience or degrees. Recognize it and move on. Good luck! |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012 Location: México
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| watergirl wrote: |
WOW!!!
I'm sorry, but Dodge whatever and Augustine.. really kinda sucky, mean comments.. Social skills I'm guessing shouldn't be first on your resumes, and I'm also going to guess, lacking social skills speaks somewhat on your probable teaching skills, so if you don't have anything nice to say, why don't u just not say anything at all? |
Right, Rossie. I said that the OP might need to toughen up (and I still think she does), questioned her inattentive boyfriend's priorities (who was, as she said, the reason she came here in first place), then advised people to avoid Korea if they're coming here to work for a hagwon.
So, then, I'm apparently left lacking in social and teaching skills? Before you quip something that has been said a billion times with your "If you don't have anything nice to say..."... Try to insert some originality into your posts before you make yourself look like an idiot. |
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le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Were you weeping while you wrote that?
Wow... what's with this boyfriend of yours?
This country will break you though, son. Especially a weak woman.
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thats what you said. If thats how you give advice, id stick to playing computer games, writing your blog, watching k-porn or what ever it is you do in your free time.
after reading her op, what gave you the impression she wanted to hear someone say 'haha, it serves you right for coming here, stupid weak woman!'?
watergirl is spot on, if you dont realise thats inappropriate, you obviously have no social skills.
and this message is for the rest of you cowards attacking her. You're pathetic and a drain on society if you cant even refrain from kicking a man when he's down for your own personal gratification.
just because you hate yourself for how you feel when you're lonely and depressed, doesn't mean you have to hate other people for it, too. |
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