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Life After TEFL.....an insight
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:25 am    Post subject: Life After TEFL.....an insight Reply with quote

from geomonronin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqs22S_tCjs&list=UUKNRzuHIvzo_D1PyPCBtBWQ&index=9

A talented and hard working guy home for well over a year at the time the video was made.

The situation at home is hopeless. Korea provides a much better standard of living for all of us.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Careful Creeper, this guy worked in China because he doesn't have a degree. You might end up encouraging more back packers to head out your way (not Korea) if you expose them to this. Not what you want is it?
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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard China is the BEST destination for ESL teaching. People there just love it and claim it to be tons better than Korea. Teaching in Korea has been saturated and soon will end up like Japan where it is full to capacity.

There are literally 10 times more positions in Beijing and Shanghai in huge cities that waste pathetic Seoul.
Take your pick!

China is the future of ESL.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
Careful Creeper, this guy worked in China because he doesn't have a degree. You might end up encouraging more back packers to head out your way (not Korea) if you expose them to this. Not what you want is it?


I don't know, but I always get the impression that the creeper dude is stuck in China longing to go back to Korea but can't meet the requirements necessary.
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augustine



Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrddogs wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
Careful Creeper, this guy worked in China because he doesn't have a degree. You might end up encouraging more back packers to head out your way (not Korea) if you expose them to this. Not what you want is it?


I don't know, but I always get the impression that the creeper dude is stuck in China longing to go back to Korea but can't meet the requirements necessary.


Or a recruiter.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This loser's posts have been slapped up here on Dave's before. He worked in China without advancing his degree level. Over the course of a few years, he saved nothing, and then got pinched out of the market. Then he went back home and started these maniacly depressing blog posts about how nothing was rolling his way. Oh, but for his educated friends and family with experience, jobs were to be had!

Yawn. Just another example of people taking absolutely no responsibility for their situation. If nothing else, though, it serves as a good lesson; don't end up like THIS guy!
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salutbonjour



Joined: 22 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha "A talented and hard working guy". Who said he was any of those two things?

Come on, he talks about depression and alcoholism after going back home and losing a job at the convenience store. And I'm pretty sure he was stalking some girl by saying that "if someone wants you to leave them alone... well... erhm... erhm... it's probably a good idea to leave them alone".

Looks like a lunatic who probably talks about his problems during job interviews.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Life After TEFL.....an insight Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
The situation at home is hopeless.

Not true.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/02/a-case-for-college-the-unemployment-rate-for-bachelors-degree-holders-is-37-percent/272779/

Quote:
A strengthening housing recovery and robust auto sales contributed to moderate growth across the United States in late February and March, according to a Federal Reserve survey released Wednesday.

Quote:
The U.S. unemployment rate continues to tick down, hitting a more than four-year low of just 7.6% in March.
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lithium



Joined: 18 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Life After TEFL.....an insight Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
The situation at home is hopeless.

Not true.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/02/a-case-for-college-the-unemployment-rate-for-bachelors-degree-holders-is-37-percent/272779/

Quote:
A strengthening housing recovery and robust auto sales contributed to moderate growth across the United States in late February and March, according to a Federal Reserve survey released Wednesday.

[quote]The U.S. unemployment rate continues to tick down, hitting a more than four-year low of just 7.6% in March.
[/quote]

The unemployment rate is going down because droves of people are leaving the job market. Over 650,000 left last month alone. The situation will only get worse as socialized Obamacare kicks in January 1. What you are witnessing is a dying country.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh? The "unofficial" rate is dropping too. It's true. Look here:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/apr/23/hunter-unemployment-bill-rate-bls/

If the U.S. is a "dying country", then why is there a long waiting list of people desperate to get in there? The United States is the #1 destination for immigrants. It is the place they most want to go (not Sweden, Canada, South Korea, etc.).
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
China is the future of ESL.


That may be true for newbies (time will tell), but as long as the job market doesn't completely collapse here and you have a job that values experience (i.e. non-entry level), there will be no reason to have to go to China (or anywhere else).

Hey, I just wrote a sentence with three sets of parentheses.
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MarkArtz



Joined: 21 Mar 2013
Location: Monterey, CA

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
I heard China is the BEST destination for ESL teaching. People there just love it and claim it to be tons better than Korea. Teaching in Korea has been saturated and soon will end up like Japan where it is full to capacity.

There are literally 10 times more positions in Beijing and Shanghai in huge cities that waste pathetic Seoul.
Take your pick!

China is the future of ESL.



I've heard this as well! Personally, I have considered China but ROK/Japan have obtained most of my attention.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
This loser's posts have been slapped up here on Dave's before. He worked in China without advancing his degree level. Over the course of a few years, he saved nothing, and then got pinched out of the market. Then he went back home and started these maniacly depressing blog posts about how nothing was rolling his way. Oh, but for his educated friends and family with experience, jobs were to be had!

Yawn. Just another example of people taking absolutely no responsibility for their situation. If nothing else, though, it serves as a good lesson; don't end up like THIS guy!


Yep, be careful from WHOM you hear about stuff. I remember years ago, an American friend of mine also doubled as the personnel manager at the hakwon he worked at. He fired a teacher who kept going to class hungover or even drunk, then the teacher wrote a scathing indictment of the hakwon and manager afterwards on this site. My friend told the site administrator, who apologized and took the post down.

Going back home is tough but not impossible. Lots of jobs in healthcare and other fields available for those who are willing to retool and retrain.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:14 pm    Post subject: form Reply with quote

It is bad form to call someone lazy or make derogatory comments about someone baring his/her soul on youtube.

Anyway Geomonronin has posted an update. Things are pretty grim. Progress is slow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq3c6uIUH84&list=UUKNRzuHIvzo_D1PyPCBtBWQ&index=6

He also answers people's repeated suggestions that he go back to TEFL. He isn't interested in that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwsvwanC3MU&list=UUKNRzuHIvzo_D1PyPCBtBWQ

Fair play to him for sticking it out at home and not doing taking the easy route out.
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy could not teach in Korea. He does not have a university degree.
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