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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Cenk Uygur (Young Turks) noted that suspect #2 was either talking to someone of interest or was feigning to be talking on his cell phone. Since he presumably didn't know that he was being videotaped, I don't see why he'd bother faking a phone call. My brother - who works on cell towers - says the FBI should be able to easily track him, and they're probably looking for others that were in on it.
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
Hey bum!

I realize that his goes against your carefully concieved ideas that if an arab kills an American its okay.

but there were big celebrations in Arab communities all accross the u.s. on the evening of 9/11.

it was reported and i witnessed some of the celebrating. I was living out in Lauderdale and saw lots of people gathered in the area near lauderdale lakes shooting fireworks, dancing! this was around an area with a lot of arab owned businesses. also a big thanks for the killing partyh was held around Planation area. Again dancing fireworkd. the smae night several synagogues were vandalized, spray painted the ususal death to the Jews.
some swastikas.
Why people doubt this is beyond me. Hey do some study read some books.

I mean this was no big secret okay! Why the doubt??? I mean murder is a form of predjudice , so your theory that arabs can not be bigots kind of goes poof.


Yet, no media reported it. Strange.
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12ax7



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They shot and killed a campus police officer at MIT. One suspect in custody, the other still at large.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
Hey bum!

I realize that his goes against your carefully concieved ideas that if an arab kills an American its okay.

but there were big celebrations in Arab communities all accross the u.s. on the evening of 9/11.

it was reported and i witnessed some of the celebrating. I was living out in Lauderdale and saw lots of people gathered in the area near lauderdale lakes shooting fireworks, dancing! this was around an area with a lot of arab owned businesses. also a big thanks for the killing partyh was held around Planation area. Again dancing fireworkd. the smae night several synagogues were vandalized, spray painted the ususal death to the Jews.
some swastikas.
Why people doubt this is beyond me. Hey do some study read some books.

I mean this was no big secret okay! Why the doubt??? I mean murder is a form of predjudice , so your theory that arabs can not be bigots kind of goes poof.


I've heard this rumor countless times yet I've never seen it confirmed. I'm perfectly willing to believe this story, but I'm not going to believe it off of unconfirmed rumors. If you want to convince us, offer up something other than the circumstantial use of fireworks.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it was a KKK rally in nearby Davie, Florida ... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/community/sfl-sfl-klu-klux-klan720090403165511,0,479331.photo

Although I still couldn't find any links to Muslims celebrating after the 9/11 attacks, I stumbled upon this very controversial/provocative one ... http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html

Evidently (at least by their names) the Boston bombers do (did) have some Middle-Eastern connection, which will almost certainly make living in the USA more dangerous for the many decent Americans of Middle-Eastern descent. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/boston-mit-shooting-explosion-suspect-watertown-064355149.html
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Weigel has this on the dead bomber:


Police have identified Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, as the second bombing suspect, killed during the manhunt that followed. Readers have pointed out that Johannes Hirn made Tsarnaev the subject of a photo essay, "Will Box for Passport," taken before the boxer competed at National Golden Gloves competition in Salt Lake City. The captions give us a micro-profile of the suspect.

*Tamerlan, who studies at Bunker Hill Community College in Boston and wants to become an engineer, took the semester off from school to train for the competition.

*Tamerlan fled Chechnya with his family because of the conflict in the early 90s, and lived for years in Kazakhstan before getting to the United States as a refugee.

*Originally from Chechnya, but living in the United States since five years, Tamerlan says: "I don't have a single American friend, I don't understand them."

*If he wins enough fights... Tamerlan says he could be selected for the US Olympic team and be naturalized American. Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia.

*Tamerlan says he doesn't drink or smoke anymore: "God said no alcohol." A muslim, he says: "There are no values anymore," and worries that "people can't control themselves."

This YouTube account may be Tsarnaev's.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/19/tamerlan_tsarnaev_dead_bombing_suspect_i_don_t_have_a_single_american_friend.html
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess its time to brush up geographically/historically/demographically on Chechnya ... http://www.freep.com/article/20130419/NEWS15/304190103/Chechnya-area-linked-to-Boston-bombing-suspects-a-breeding-ground-for-terror

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They captured the second suspect alive ... http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/boston-mit-shooting-explosion-suspect-watertown-064355149.html
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rollo



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It WAS reportd in the media Catman. Read if you can. Maybe nott in Canadian media
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catman



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
It WAS reportd in the media Catman. Read if you can. Maybe nott in Canadian media


Link?
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stilicho25



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the media after 9/11 I recall some stories about parties for events not related to 9/11 being mistaken for celebrations of the attack. Later, it was found they were not related. This was in Patterson, or Union city. Maybe both. No idea on whether they were actually malicious or not.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was switching between CNN and Fox News to get a feel of how Fox News is editorializing this story (Fox News putting a spin on stories? Impossible!).

CNN: The people are taking the streets, cheering the police officers.

Whereas Fox News: People are chanting "USA! USA! USA!".

And today:

CNN: We need to further investigate if the two bombers have/had links with international terrorism. It's an ongoing investigation.

Whereas Fox News: They 'seem' to have links to international terrorist groups and 'may' have been trained abroad (one visited his family in Russia in the last few years). The government 'may' be held partly responsible because the eldest brother was interview by the FBI in 2011...and so on and so forth.

Rolling Eyes
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who hold strong religious/ideological beliefs without philosophical understanding tend to be fanatics who would kill in the name of their religion or ideology even when such killing is seen by reasonable people as completely unnecessary, senseless violence. Although Muslims don't have a good track record in that regard, they certainly don't have a monopoly on either fanaticism or murder.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An article commenting about suspect's reported (by another anonymous source to CNN) "serious throat injury" ... http://www.inquisitr.com/628068/suspect-throat-injury-may-prevent-boston-bomber-from-speaking/

More recent (but rambling) article from AP - http://news.yahoo.com/interrogators-wait-query-wounded-bomb-suspect-112840023.html

Interesting article about releasing suspects' photos to "limit the damage" caused by sites like Reddit.com and rags like the NY Post ... http://news.yahoo.com/wapo-police-released-boston-suspects-photos-limit-damage-125047951.html
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