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12ax7
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Socratic questioning = "who is to blame"? |
Short attention span, eh? Read a little further down the line. |
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Kuros
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Israelis wonder what Massachusetts was thinking.
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In an article posted on his newspaper�s Web site on Friday titled �What message is the U.S. sending with a Boston lockdown?,� Katz contrasted his experience at home with what he was witnessing in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
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There was no lockdown in Israel and there was no order by the mayor to seek shelter. Instead, people were out in the streets, filling up coffee shops right next to the one that had been bombed or standing at bus stops waiting for the next bus from the same line that had just exploded. This has always impressed me as a sign of true resilience, of a refusal to allow terrorism to change our way of life.
I am not judging the people of Boston and their leaders and yes, there is something to be said about being safe than sorry. But, I wonder about the long-term strategic ramifications and if this won�t be viewed as a near-surrender to terrorism. |
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Rteacher
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Location: Western MA, USA
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Of course, most of the brave talk is by people (especially cowardly politician types) who themselves would flee at the first sign of danger
...There was no shortage of individual acts of bravery in Boston, and the message to terrorists is that they will be identified, hunted down, and called "losers".
Unfortunately, there are also many ways for determined enemies to bring modern cities virtually to a halt (e.g., computer hackers, small drones, biological/chemical weapons...) In this case it was probably better to voluntarily close down and focus all resources on finding the attackers as soon as possible.
Moreover,I think it would have been very reckless to let the Red Sox game and other crowded events go on when at least one mad bomber was still on the loose. Police resources would also have had to be diverted to protect those big targets. |
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diver
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
Israelis wonder what Massachusetts was thinking.
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In an article posted on his newspaper�s Web site on Friday titled �What message is the U.S. sending with a Boston lockdown?,� Katz contrasted his experience at home with what he was witnessing in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
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There was no lockdown in Israel and there was no order by the mayor to seek shelter. Instead, people were out in the streets, filling up coffee shops right next to the one that had been bombed or standing at bus stops waiting for the next bus from the same line that had just exploded. This has always impressed me as a sign of true resilience, of a refusal to allow terrorism to change our way of life.
I am not judging the people of Boston and their leaders and yes, there is something to be said about being safe than sorry. But, I wonder about the long-term strategic ramifications and if this won�t be viewed as a near-surrender to terrorism. |
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While the press has been calling it a "lockdown" it actually wasn't. People were ASKED, not ORDERED, to stay in their homes. They complied. Katz himself says that he walked around outside during the "lockdown" and he was not arrested.
Every situation is different, so it is hard to compare Boston to what happened in Israel. Which event? When?
My take on bombings in Israel is that they are usually suicide bombers - so, once the blow up, that's pretty much it, isn't it?
In Boston, you had two guys go undergound. When they surfaced, the executed a police officer, threw explosives at the police during a high speed chase through a residential neighborhood, and one of them was wearing an explosive vest. They were obviously up to no good, there was one on the loose and they had a general idea where he was and that he was a current, ongoing threat. I think it was a good idea to ask people to stay int heir homes.
I think another difference might be cultural. Since Israel has mandatory military service, the Israelis consider every Israeli citizen a front-line soldier. They are probably also more aware of their surroundings having lived with terrorism longer.
http://nation.time.com/2013/04/19/was-boston-actually-on-lockdown/ |
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12ax7
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Rteacher
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