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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghostrider wrote:
I just took a look at her daum page. She has a long list of accomplishments. She lists some of universities she attended but doesn't make it clear if she earned a degree. She says she has been published in various religion/philosophy journals. Now that she has had an article published in the Korea Times too she can update her resume.


Since when does a Barnard grad get to say they went to Columbia?
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hiamnotcool wrote:
The guy that winked has some serious game. This lady can't stop thinking about him, it drove her so crazy she had to write an article about it. The next step is to track him down and lecture him personally. Afterward he will joke with her a little bit and explain himself. She will feel like she has taught him some kind of a lesson and they will reflect on it over a cup of coffee the next day.

Hey, maybe he isn't so bad after all.

Next thing she knows she's waking up next to him and they are teasing each other about chauvinism Vs feminism. He impresses her with his knowledge of American female poets and authors and makes a wise crack about how he just learned about them to pick up girls in college. She laughs....no way....he just doesn't want to admit how much he really admires women.

While in bed with the winker she will get a text from one her emasculated male friends that reads her column regularly and always provides a shoulder to cry on. She will lie to this friend about how the cup of coffee turned out and tell him she's over the whole mess about the wink anyway and she just overslept. The friend feels a little suspicious but realizes it's just his outdated masculine tendencies that are leading him down this path. He forgives her for not showing up to their normal Sunday morning brunch. It's not unusual anyway, she tends to oversleep a lot.

She gets the winkers phone number, he gets hers. Maybe he will text her sometimes, they may or may not meet up again for some more "coffee". She is a free woman and she won't be constrained by a commitment anyway. She's alone because she chooses to be.

Maybe that is what will happen. I don't really know, I'm just speculating here. Either way she can't get that guy that winked out of her head.


Hilarious!!

As for the woman, she's a nut. Clearly both feminist and racist.
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jjajangmyun



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: way down south!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:


Since when does a Barnard grad get to say they went to Columbia?


since Barnard began.
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joelove



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
Although she is totally crazy, this thread is sort of related to the "Bill Gates Handshake of Doom" thread.

Koreans assume Western executives are briefed in cultural differences and view themselves as representatives of their people, this is clearly not the case.


I don't really get this representing other people stuff, maybe for high-level politicians or dignitaries or other bigwigs. I guess good manners are expected. Both of these threads are funny. Perceived insults over trivial stuff blown out of proportion it seems. And through the lens of culture, expecting foreigners to be keen to their own but somehow not showing much awareness of the difference themselves. Another funny one I saw recently was when some Koreans went to Italy and insulted the Italian chefs trying to promote bibimbap of all foods. Think about that for a second -- some crappy old bibimbap, and treating Italian chefs like bozos for not knowing it and not liking it. Cultural sensitivity and awareness indeed. What a bunch of fools.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joelove wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
Although she is totally crazy, this thread is sort of related to the "Bill Gates Handshake of Doom" thread.

Koreans assume Western executives are briefed in cultural differences and view themselves as representatives of their people, this is clearly not the case.


I don't really get this representing other people stuff, maybe for high-level politicians or dignitaries or other bigwigs. I guess good manners are expected. Both of these threads are funny. Perceived insults over trivial stuff blown out of proportion it seems. And through the lens of culture, expecting foreigners to be keen to their own but somehow not showing much awareness of the difference themselves. Another funny one I saw recently was when some Koreans went to Italy and insulted the Italian chefs trying to promote bibimbap of all foods. Think about that for a second -- some crappy old bibimbap, and treating Italian chefs like bozos for not knowing it and not liking it. Cultural sensitivity and awareness indeed. What a bunch of fools.

That's what happens when the media here runs stories like "Foreigners love K-pop" or "Foreigners love bibimbab". Makes it seem like Korea is the center of everyone's universe, when in reality it isn't. This may surprise some Koreans when they go abroad. Other than a few K-pop tweakers, they aren't on everyone's radar. That's not a bad thing, it's just reality.

Semi-related, a Korean friend told me about a clubbing experience in England. Some "black man" grabbed her butt, and she told him, "You can't do that to me, I'm Korean!"
(Like anyone gives a rat's a** about that, especially in a club, lol.)
Good thing he didn't wink at her or she'd be scarred for life.

She then went on to explain how they must have thought she was Japanese, but Korean girls aren't like that.
Right, like the rest of the world is supposed to know that, let alone believe it or care... it's a club and people are people.
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joelove



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This "center of the world" thinking is common enough even if it's like the nine year old kid believing his house on the outskirts is in the center of town. If nothing else, living in foreign countries will open your eyes a bit to how damn important everybody thinks their own country (including your own) and their own culture and their own outlook on things is. I guess it is important, but don't expect the rest of the world to agree, know or even care.

I used to hang out with a Korean girl who seemed confused when she referred to something and I wouldn't know what she was talking about. Mainly because I didn't care, and this seemed to puzzle her. She'd actually be surprised I didn't have a clue about such important things, like something that happened in sports and the Koreans were wronged, or some American celebrity told a joke about eating dog or whatever and they were insulted... so then she alone could speak on behalf of the entire nation that "we don't like him because he told this joke" --yikes. I guess I was the only foreigner she spoke to in those days, and all the other people being Korean would be all over what she was talking about.

It's like there's some sort of disbelief many people have that there really is a large world outside of their country. This seems prominent in China, which you can almost excuse them for I suppose, seeing how damn large that country/population is. Or maybe for some American celebrity who goes on a talk show and speaks of her trip to Europe, almost surprised the cultures and languages are different there.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joelove wrote:
It's like there's some sort of disbelief many people have that there really is a large world outside of their country.


That's pretty much how it is.

In my observation Americans and Koreans are the WORST about this, both are pretty much trained from birth that their little world is the entire world, and certain the best world!

Europeans seem the best, I guess the UK has a lot of experience expanding into other cultures, and then getting their butt kicked out of said cultures, and have learned something over the years.

I actually find Philippines and modern areas of China to be fairly okay with grasping cultural differences. People in the Philippines are just very relaxed which probably helps.
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Crazies out? Yeah I agree but what do you expect man? She's a chick.
She loves the attention. All (normal) chicks do. You know and I know in about 10 years or 20 years she's going to look back on this (if it really happened) and have such sweet fond memories.
If it didn't really happen it doesn't matter...chicks are delusional. If they think it SHOULD have happened to them then it really did.
This is why I have been telling you people from day #1...don't take them serious. They are like children.


I gotta believe that the other Korean women at this conference who probably got winked were at best slightly annoyed.
Hot women let a wink roll off their backs. Its the no quite so hot ones that make a federal case of things Why? She's at best a Seoul 7, if she wears make up and has a decent outfit on and its their way of saying 'See, I got all kinds of men checking me just like you hot chicks. I'm one of you.'
These are the same chicks who will go to HR and bring a sexual harrassment or hostile working environment complaint because some guy said they looked nice that day while the rest of the women in the department acknowledge the compliment and thank the same guy for it.
Trust me, when age catches up, she'll pray for some half blind guy to wink at her or more.

It just wasn't worth writing an editorial about. With all the scuzzy ajoshi perverts out there, you'd think she would put things in a bit more perspective.

On a related note, the modern western or women who are around western culture, want to be taken serious as an equal as a business colleague which is fair but at the same time want to be attractive to men and if said women is single and sees a single upwardly mobile man in a work environment she will flirt in a subtle or sometimes not too subtle way...but wants to be seen as an equal and serious business associate at the same time. A tough balancing act and if men don't get it right we are sexist. If said guy doesn't return her flirts, then you get articles about what is wrong with guys these days and they 'don't know what they want'.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another reason why I avoid (almost all the time) American womyn. You get some that act like them here in Asia but scores that don't. I'm never going back to the USA.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Just another reason why I avoid (almost all the time) American womyn. You get some that act like them here in Asia but scores that don't. I'm never going back to the USA.


In Korea, you get older but the chicks stay the same age. Cool
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
joelove wrote:
It's like there's some sort of disbelief many people have that there really is a large world outside of their country.


That's pretty much how it is.

In my observation Americans and Koreans are the WORST about this, both are pretty much trained from birth that their little world is the entire world, and certain the best world!

Europeans seem the best, I guess the UK has a lot of experience expanding into other cultures, and then getting their butt kicked out of said cultures, and have learned something over the years.

I actually find Philippines and modern areas of China to be fairly okay with grasping cultural differences. People in the Philippines are just very relaxed which probably helps.


I agree with your observations about Americans and Koreans being like that, and also your observation about Filipinos being open-minded. I would add Canadians to Americans and Koreans. They often complain to me about Americans not knowing everything about Canada even though, "You're right next to us!" The thing is, where I'm from, there are probably 20 countries in Central America, the Caribbean, and maybe even South America that are closer to my hometown than Canada. I can't be an expert on all of them.
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radcon



Joined: 23 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Just another reason why I avoid (almost all the time) American womyn. You get some that act like them here in Asia but scores that don't. I'm never going back to the USA.


Sure. Just keep telling yourself that. Personally I "avoid" the Victoria's Secret gals. I just can't be bothered with them.
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Can you imagine coming home to this lady? It would drive a man to HARD liquor. Of the like turpentine or varnish variety.

No doubt there is a 'hard liquor' involved in this drama.
But it doesn't involve alcohol...or men.
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