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Hagwon wants me to do privates

 
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elizabethbennet88



Joined: 18 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:50 pm    Post subject: Hagwon wants me to do privates Reply with quote

well, actually, I don't work at a hagwon but at an afterschool program. Anyways, the problem for my company is that the program only runs for 5 hours a day, so they are always looking for opportunities for me to make up more hours. Their latest is to have me do privates at homes and coffee shops. To be clear, this is a business transaction between my company and the client. I only get paid my normal salary. Yet, I suspect this is illegal. I can only work at registered educational institutions, having an E2, right?

If anyone could refer me to something concrete like a section in the Law, that would be super! Thanks.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Hagwon wants me to do privates Reply with quote

elizabethbennet88 wrote:
well, actually, I don't work at a hagwon but at an afterschool program. Anyways, the problem for my company is that the program only runs for 5 hours a day, so they are always looking for opportunities for me to make up more hours. Their latest is to have me do privates at homes and coffee shops. To be clear, this is a business transaction between my company and the client. I only get paid my normal salary. Yet, I suspect this is illegal. I can only work at registered educational institutions, having an E2, right?

If anyone could refer me to something concrete like a section in the Law, that would be super! Thanks.


Yes, it is illegal. And your school likely does not care. Do not do it, more so you are getting paid regular wages. If things go wrong, I do not expect the company to be around to help pay your fines and costs.

From the Hi-Korea website on E2 Visas

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Organization that are permitted to hire Foreign Language Instructor

Educational facilities (primary school and above) or an attached language institution
Organizations with a training institute for the employees
Foreign language institutes registered by the Article 3-2 of the Presidential Decree of Institutes' Establishment, Operation & Private Instruction Law
- Multiple curriculum can be registered and performed
- Applicable to foreign language institutions corresponding to those described under Article 12 of the Presidential Decree of Immigration Act.
Facilities which is set up based on the law of lifetime education and coincides with the standard the Minister of Justice made.
Lifetime education facility set up and operated by the nation or the local autonomous entity based on other laws.
Institutions or corporations for developing abilities for employment which are set up based on the employees' job training promotion law.
Corporations or public organizations that own a lecture room with language instruction equipments, which allows its employees to learn foreign language conversation. * Public enterprises, sub-government organizations, and other public organizations established by the public organization administration law(Can check at www.alio.go.kr)
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Will Wiggle



Joined: 22 Apr 2013
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Advice Reply with quote

Skippy (above) is right. That is an illegal request. I f you want more info from within Korea you can check out the Korean Legal Aid Corporation (www.klac.or.kr) which offers legal advice and support to foreigners. To qualify for legal aid your average monthly salary should be under 2.6 million won. Reach them on 132 (within Korea).
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they schedule the one-on-one lessons at your after school location during contracted hours, it would be fine. Elsewhere, it's illegal. Make it clear that it is impossible for you to do anything illegal, because you would be deported. Look sorrowful when you say this.
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watergirl



Joined: 01 Jul 2008
Location: Ansan, south korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I work for an after school as well and several of my friends do. All afterschools only have 4 or 5 teaching hours a day as that is the limit of teaching in public schools. I've never heard of an afterschool company that makes u do extra privates. If u will get extra money, then that's fine. But if you won't, then just use the excuse that it's illegal because it is.
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augustine



Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

watergirl wrote:
All afterschools only have 4 or 5 teaching hours a day...


Not all, mine only has 2-3 teaching hours a day. Smile
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy hell! How do you get paid so much money then? How is the program profitable? I mean the class sizes are small and the parents don't pay that much, so maybe it is subsidized by the Korean government?
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augustine



Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely not subsidized. All parties are making money and there are about 80 students spread out over seven classes my CT and I rotate on. She actually teaches four 50 min classes on Mondays but I never have more than three 50 min classes on a given day. The company I work for has similar schedules at other schools they have contracts with, and it's just more condensed and doesn't go by grade as much, but by level, basically. With Korea's work you til you die culture, it's hard to beat 2-3 50 minute classes a day, no boss, and an 11-3:30 or 12-4 schedule unless you work at a university. They also created some fake "class" since apparently you're supposed to technically have a certain amount of hours (or something like that, I'm not sure), but it's just an hour break for me. Funnily enough, my CT does a private lesson in her room during her fake class break; I'd like to hook one of those up myself for that loose hour, though it's nice to get a little nap in if I'm feeling tired. Cool
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG, I am shocked. Do you know how much the parents are paying? (A lot?) Think of all the unfortunate souls stuck in Wonderland or SLP. Compared to them, you've got it made. What do you do for your lessons? Don't you need to prep for them?
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augustine



Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't prepped for a lesson in over a year and no one would notice even if I did. We're ahead in the book right now in most of my classes anyway, so we do a lot of drawing these days Very Happy. I forget how much the parents pay but it's more than usual if I remember correctly. And, yeah... tried that nasty hagwon racket thing once... didn't work out too well. Regarding a lot of things, not a big fan of this strange little country but I'm patently a fan of the jobs it's given me. Plenty of time to make dough on the side, take life easy, and, as the locals would say, get some hunting done. Wink
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