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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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"Some prefer males, and some prefer females" is like talking without saying anything. It's like saying "some lifers speak Korean, and some don't" without giving an actual percentage or rough estimate guess. (Answer: Most lifers don't speak Korean. Those who do are in the minority, just as most schools discrimating by gender are discriminating in favor of females.)
| Thiuda wrote: |
| The scoring system is not as rigid as you might think. For example, female applicants are treated preferentially because of the relative dearth of women at our university. If I remember correctly, we had three female applicants out of a total of 51. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Go through waygook.org and look at the lesson plan materials. Look at ones posted by female teachers vs. male. Notice a trend?
Obviously these are very general things and there are countless exceptions on both sides, but I think one needs to consider those things.
With all the obscure usernames, how do you know if someone is male or
female? I know some are obvious, but many are not.
I don't see how you could make the assumptions you're making in an
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If you look to the side and down of the poster username you will see one of two symbols for male or female. That is how you will know. Arrow pointing up like a *beep* is a man. Little cross pointing down is a woman. Yes, people could lie on the application but I would say 98 percent of the time, the sex is correct. |
Thanks, I hadn't noticed that before. What I did notice is that there seems to be a lot more female posters than male. I haven't spent much
time on that site so, there's lots I haven't seen. There seem to be just as many female teachers asking for help with lesson plans as those giving them out, so I don't know where any conclusions regarding gender
can be made. But like I said before, there's a lot there and lots I haven't
seen.
I wish that site had been around when I first arrived in Korea. I think it was just starting up the last year I was there, and there wasn't much on it at that time. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Zenkitty wrote: |
| LOL, now you know what all women in Western countries feel when they get passed over for a job b/c a man also applied. Men get paid more, get more promotions, and aren't sexually harassed on the job. |
1) Women earn more than men.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308508/Gender-pay-gap-U-S-reversed-young-women.html
2) Female unemployment is less than male unemployment.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577173513076165758.html
3) Is sexual harassment at jobs common? Maybe you could sue for a lot of money if you can get a recording of someone making sexual remarks to you. (If it's a rich/powerful/famous dude like Bill O'Reilly you can settle for millions.) Do women have it worse than men in the U.S.? Think about this: Men commit suicide at quadruple the rate of women in the U.S. (true fact). In China, the world's most populous country, the suicide rate of women exceeds that of men. |
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hacheondo
Joined: 05 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:45 am Post subject: |
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My co-teachers mentioned that they were relieved when I was a woman but they didn't tell me why until months later. Apparently the previous native teacher was a man and he was kind of creepy. He would pay significantly more attention to the girls in class (middle school) and ask them for their phone numbers and to hang out. Some students felt uncomfortable and told the teachers, who told him he couldn't do that anymore and his response was "I'm lonely".
I'm sure that's not the reason for all schools who prefer female teachers, but that was the case with mine. |
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Haha, I worked with two of those guys in different schools. There are some creepy-ass dudes wandering the halls of the hanguk. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| If you really want a university job, check the job board to see what the GOOD unis want. |
For new applicants they want previous university experience. All unis do now because of a new law. How does one get the requisite experience? (Serious question, not trolling.)
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| I know of a guy who has "experience" but he was posing sexual questions to female students and had to quit. So technically he would be more qualified than me. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Zenkitty wrote: |
| LOL, now you know what all women in Western countries feel when they get passed over for a job b/c a man also applied. Men get paid more, get more promotions, and aren't sexually harassed on the job. |
We don't have to worry nearly as much about getting raped, but men get stalked and sexually harassed a LOT more often than you'd think. There just aren't Lifetime channel movies made about it. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
For new applicants they want previous university experience. All unis do now because of a new law. How does one get the requisite experience? (Serious question, not trolling.) |
Think its more of a recommended thing.
I just got hired on at a top 5 uni in Seoul for the spring term w/ zero university experience. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| PhDs don't need prior experience according to the new rule. You have doctorate? (A doctorate pretty much guarantees a uni position (as a low paid English conversation teacher at least), much like a masters did 5 years ago a bachelors did 10+ years ago. What are your quals? |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Have a MAT and 8 years of teaching experience (2 back home, 6 here), none of it is at the university level.
Actually had a crap ton of interviews w/ just those qualifications. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| That's great. Actually, for certified teachers, teaching experience at home can count as teaching experience years. (I forgot about that part.) Certification plus two years teaching at home plus a masters will suffice to meet the minimum hiring requirement. Also, specialized research can count (two years of that plus the masters), though I'm not exactly sure what that entails. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| You know what angers me to no end? To click on a link for a high end job, only to read, "Must be a woman." |
LOL, now you know what all women in Western countries feel when they get passed over for a job b/c a man also applied. Men get paid more, get more promotions, |
That's actually not true. It's a myth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwogDPh-Sow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ASTL_jq1q4 |
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