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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| To deny that there is a double standard here is preposterous - and you know it. I know that the media is not totally blind to Korean criminals but considering the sheer numbers involved, you have to say something is a little off. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, Steelrails please do note that I said 'some' Korean people and 'certain sections of the media'. I don't like making grand assumptions anymore than you clearly hate reading them, yet you assumed that I never watch Korean TV and I am sports TV jock. Have a word with yourself before you hit the keyboard. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
| To deny that there is a double standard here is preposterous - and you know it. I know that the media is not totally blind to Korean criminals but considering the sheer numbers involved, you have to say something is a little off. |
If you watch the Korean news, they do report on crimes committed by Koreans every day. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
| To deny that there is a double standard here is preposterous - and you know it. I know that the media is not totally blind to Korean criminals but considering the sheer numbers involved, you have to say something is a little off. |
The sheer numbers- How many major news stories about English teachers did we have last year? 2? 3? How many major news stories about Korean criminals were thrown all over Korean news during that same time frame.
Just because it was significant to you, doesn't mean the numbers and ratios line up. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was referring to the numbers quoted in the OP. However, you know that foreigners are held to a different standard here. As much as I love Korea (I am no hater), I know that I will never be seen as the same as Koreans because that is the nature of this society. I have accepted it and I don't try to deny it or fight it. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| To deny that there is a double standard here is preposterous - and you know it. I know that the media is not totally blind to Korean criminals but considering the sheer numbers involved, you have to say something is a little off. |
1.Wanting the US Army to provide equipment, training, and lives if a war breaks out, but at the same time wanting to condemn their presence and treat their soldiers like second class citizens
2.Wanting Native English speakers to design a curriculum, manage a classroom, and teach english while paying them the bare minimum and not acknowledging their contribution
3.Wanting Foreigners to learn Korean but being impatient when dealing with a foreigners bad grammar, accent, or knowledge of the formalities when they just started learning
4.Taking offense at foreigners coming to Korea and refusing to eat the local food, while only eating Korean food when traveling
5.Allowing widespread plagiarism and copyright infringement of Foreign products, but taking great pains to punish or call out people who do the same to Korea
6.C Blocking foreign guys with Korean girls, but high fiving korean guys with foreign women
7.Claiming ignorance when acting racist, accepting no excuses when foreigners are racist against koreans
8.Foreign alcohol, foreign music, foreign fashion, foreign clothes, foreign name in a club, but no foreigners allowed inside
9.Chastising other countries for not acknowledging their past misdeeds while refusing to acknowledge the misdeeds of Korea (or providing never ending excuses)
10.Chastising foreigners for getting drunk too much while allowing alcoholism to be a central part of Korean culture and nightlife and being offended if foreigners refuse to drink at a social gathering
11.Freely criticizing and judging foreign cultures, while taking serious offense at any foreigner criticizing and judging Korean culture
12.Calling foreign women s@!@# for wearing shirts that show cleavage while wearing borderline obscene short skirts and shorts
I think #11 is where a lot of frustration that foreigners have here comes from. There are plenty of internal discussions about problems with Korean Society among Koreans but as foreigners we really aren't invited. It isn't considered our place to pass judgement on Korean society here and we are supposed to pretend like we don't see the bad stuff that goes down. I imagine a lot of the "no foreigners" stuff is really to keep us from seeing the debauchery than it is to discriminate against us. Korea doesn't want to show the world it's dirty laundry. The issue with me is I get reminded about how corrupt and dangerous my home country is on a regular basis here.
All I have to say is that this country is pretty clever and their diplomatic abilities are often underestimated. They manage to play the situation in their country to their favor and I won't hold that against them. I will keep scratching my head when foreign apologists come to their defense though. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: A Thriving Sex Industry In A Powerful Wealthy Super-Stat |
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It might be more convincing if it didn't destroy its credibility in the opening paragraph by describing S.K as a wealthy powerful Asian super-state.
Both Japan and China fit those terms much more so than Korea.
Nor would I describe Korea as particularly powerful or a super-state. |
SK's a rich country, man.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/10044456/China-may-not-overtake-America-this-century-after-all.html
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Dozens of states in Latin America, Asia, and the Middle East have hit an invisible ceiling over the last fifty years, languishing in the trap with per capita incomes far behind the rare "breakout" stars, Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. The trap is the norm.
The report warned that China�s 30-year miracle is nearing exhaustion. The low-hanging fruit of state-driven industrialisation and reliance on cheap exports has already been picked. |
Seoul has 131,000 millionaires.
http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130509000797&ntn=0
There's a lot of wealth in this country. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: A Thriving Sex Industry In A Powerful Wealthy Super-Stat |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
It might be more convincing if it didn't destroy its credibility in the opening paragraph by describing S.K as a wealthy powerful Asian super-state.
Both Japan and China fit those terms much more so than Korea.
Nor would I describe Korea as particularly powerful or a super-state. |
SK's a rich country, man.
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Depends on what you think is rich
S.K has a GDP (per capita) of $32,400
Canada's is around $50,496
America's is $48,328
Even Japan is at $39,578
China has a much lower per capita rate but it is still the world's second largest economy.
$32,400 wouldn't go far in any of those other countries above (with the exception of China.)
There may be a lot of wealth in this country...but most of it is in the hands of a few and most are likely are scheming how to get more of it while giving less of it away. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: A Thriving Sex Industry In A Powerful Wealthy Super-Stat |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
It might be more convincing if it didn't destroy its credibility in the opening paragraph by describing S.K as a wealthy powerful Asian super-state.
Both Japan and China fit those terms much more so than Korea.
Nor would I describe Korea as particularly powerful or a super-state. |
SK's a rich country, man.
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Depends on what you think is rich
S.K has a GDP (per capita) of $32,400
Canada's is around $50,496
America's is $48,328
Even Japan is at $39,578
China has a much lower per capita rate but it is still the world's second largest economy.
$32,400 wouldn't go far in any of those other countries above (with the exception of China.)
There may be a lot of wealth in this country...but most of it is in the hands of a few and most are likely are scheming how to get more of it while giving less of it away. |
All the major economic organizations place SK in the rich country category. The IMF, World Bank and UN. It may not be as rich as the mentioned countries above, but it is a rich country. The average Korean is not starving on the street washing their laundry in the river, like they did 30 years ago. The average family here has a roof over their heads, running hot water, a stable source of electricity that doesn't shut off for a set amount of time during the day, and food in their stomachs.
Most of the world would love to live in Korea just as much as the 15 or so countries richer than Korea (not including those small city states and mid-east countries that kind of skew the GDP data). |
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