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South Korean baby boomers are doomed

 
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: South Korean baby boomers are doomed Reply with quote

As one of my fellow church members said: Get ready, South Korea. You will be poorer than Vietnam in 10 years. Confused

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Korean baby boomers are suffering from �retirement shock� because of a lack of preparation.

The generation, born between 1955 and 1963, is emerging as a huge burden on the nation�s social safety net, according to a survey published by the MetLife Korea Foundation, Seoul National University (SNU) Institute of Aging and Gallup Korea, Thursday.

A total of 3,275 baby boomers were questioned for a research paper, titled �Changes and Continuities in Korean Baby Boomers� Lives, 2010-2012.� They were among 4,668 Korean baby boomers, who were previously surveyed in the first study in 2010.

According to the follow-up survey, the quality of life for Korean baby boomers has deteriorated, as they face retirement with a majority unprepared for life after work.

Forty-five percent of retired baby boomers said their life was not as satisfying as it was before retirement, while only 12 percent said they were happier.

The survey also showed that one in three has a physical illness and 10 percent have more than two physical problems.

These conditions also have an impact on marriage, with about 40 percent saying they have seriously considered divorce.

Han Gyeong-hye, an SNU professor leading the study, said the Korean family culture should change to help baby boomers better cope with financial issues in their post-retirement life.

�The study showed that the past two years were not so easy for baby boomers here,� she said during a news conference at the Westin Chosun Hotel in Seoul. �To help them overcome their financial problems, the Korean family culture that forces parents to support their children from education to marriage should change.�

The report showed that baby boomers� poor preparation primarily resulted from excess spending on their children�s education and marriages, although their income was stagnant.

It said spending on children increased by 27 percent, while medical expenses also jumped 11 percent. To cope with growing expenses, baby boomers tightened their purse strings for leisure and the portion of that in household spending dropped by 15 percent.

However, the number living with their children dropped to 17.2 percent from 31.7 percent.

Han also suggested baby boomers should be given �more options� in order to remain part of society after retirement, in which the market and the government should cooperate.

Other findings included that a large majority of baby boomers contributed to the National Pension Fund; but compared to 2010, the portion of people with private pensions dropped to 38 percent from 44 percent. The number of people with life insurance fell to 77 percent from 82 percent, while those with savings dropped from 69 percent to 64 percent. People with investments fell to 9 percent from 13 percent.

MetLife Korea also released another study on the pre-elderly generation, which refers to those born between 1948 and 1954.

Naming them the �Forgotten Generation,� the study team said they have been neglected by society.

�They are sandwiched between baby boomers and the elderly,� Han said. �Baby boomers have been spotlighted for the past few years while the elderly benefit from various welfare programs. But the forgotten generation is now at the crossroads without receiving any attention.�

She also said that generation accounts for about 7 percent of the Korean population, and deserves discussion about their welfare.

Sandra Timmermann, the director of the MetLife Mature Market Institute, emphasized that the elderly can be valuable assets, given that Korea is fast becoming an aging society.

�We realized that many people think aging people are a burden for society but we�re trying to change this view and to say such a population can be an asset. It�s time for us to think outside the box and to really utilize this valuable human capital,� she said.


'Retirement shock' hits baby boomers
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Forty-five percent of retired baby boomers said their life was not as satisfying as it was before retirement


Of course.

Humans aren't designed to sit around doing nothing all day long.

Personally I aim to be busy and productive for as long as possible.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Humans aren't designed to sit around doing nothing all day long.

Personally I aim to be busy and productive for as long as possible.


Not me, I like doing nothing. ^^

In fact I had planned on retiring this year and doing 50 years of nothing!!!
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This problem isn't unique to Korea. I expect taxes to go up everywhere to pay for the elderly.

Actually, I'd say, the younger you are, the more screwed you are. The problems will get progressively worse because of the decline in birthrate, increased housing costs, increased university costs, and increased taxes.

I am 40, and find housing is very expensive, taxes are high (in Canada), and I expect the govt. pension will be gone when I reach retirement. But still I'm better off than the 30 year olds or 20 year olds. They have those same problems plus, higher unemployment levels, and student debts. And the governments just keeps adding public debt (which I see as generational theft, and morally wrong).
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean Baby Boomers have it pretty good actually. I agree that the younger generations will have it hard in west too. The article said that almost all had NPS and most had savings. Some even had all three; NPS, savings, and a private pension. They'll be alright.

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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
This problem isn't unique to Korea. I expect taxes to go up everywhere to pay for the elderly.

Actually, I'd say, the younger you are, the more screwed you are. The problems will get progressively worse because of the decline in birthrate, increased housing costs, increased university costs, and increased taxes.

I am 40, and find housing is very expensive, taxes are high (in Canada), and I expect the govt. pension will be gone when I reach retirement. But still I'm better off than the 30 year olds or 20 year olds. They have those same problems plus, higher unemployment levels, and student debts. And the governments just keeps adding public debt (which I see as generational theft, and morally wrong).


How many baby boomers got wiped out during the 2008 crash? Definately not unique to Korea. But when a lot of these older ones started working Korea was either a 3rd world or developing country and so the cost of living was very cheap and having money for retirement wasn't an extreme urgency and seemed affordable. Costs have risen dramatically during the last decade, as us English teachers grumble about. Parents also lived with their families until very recently.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone claims doom and gloom on this population issue, but why do I have the sneaking suspicion that doom and gloom is for the investment class that relies on cheap labor and returns on stock options?
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This whole doomy perspective among Korean seniors is all because of the backward neo-Confucianism that plagued Korea for centuries. 성리학은 나라를 말아먹는 가장 쉬운 길이라는 걸 잊지말아라.
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ursus_rex



Joined: 20 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually think the future won't be so bad. No one seems to be thinking about the massive wealth transfer that is going to occur in the future as a result of all these single child households.

In the past, when parents passed on, the wealth was divided amongst much larger families... now, not so much. So while the tax burden may be shifting to fewer people, so will the wealth as the older generation passes on.

In my situation, for instance, my son is the only grandchild of the Korean side of the family. He stands to inherit everything (house, assets, etc.). In the end, a bit of extra taxes will be more than made up by this legacy.
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Titus



Joined: 19 May 2012

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Everyone claims doom and gloom on this population issue, but why do I have the sneaking suspicion that doom and gloom is for the investment class that relies on cheap labor and returns on stock options?


I think you're 100% correct.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who says there won't be some shift in thinking and maybe the world will experience yet another baby boom. 50 years is along time.

40 years ago Park Jung-Hee was actually encouraging some Koreans to emigrate because he thought Korea's birthrate would not go down fast enough.
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Neil



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of ironic that while most South Koreans fear that reunification would destroy their economy if and when it happens it could save it.

20 million young bodies over the line (with their diet I would doubt many average North Koreans ever see north of 65) to support the graying population and provide the manufacturing services that educated South Koreans are shunning.
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Titus



Joined: 19 May 2012

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82w_r2D1Ooo

Yes. More labor is needed. Yes Yes.
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goreality



Joined: 09 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minimum wage and production costs in South Korea are too high for 20 million uneducated people to do much help for the economy.
It will also increase youth unemployment here. Only the exceedingly ignorant, or those with an alternate agenda who are outright lying believe that re-unification will be an economic boom.
Unless they decide to come up with some kind of two tiered society, it will be a massive liability on the economy. This place doesn't have a late 1800s economy (or communism system) where more people = more workers = more money.
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