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Would you teach at/near a nuclear power plant?

 
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michi gnome



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Would you teach at/near a nuclear power plant? Reply with quote

I might have an offer to teach adults who work at a hydro/nuclear power plant near Ulsan.

Anyone have experience with this place?

6 month contract. Salary = 2.5m. One-way airfare, no bonus.

I'm doing some research now, and not sure how I feel about living near a nuclear plant. I've heard of cases where they've vented steam (downstate Illinois) for whatever reason, and who knows how much radiation was sent into the environment.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know some korean power plants have a terrible safety record, (for example a plant just outside of ulsan), but i wouldnt let it stop me. theres a slim chance there'd be an accident.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't that low for a company position? I always figured that they'd pay much more.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wouldn't bother me
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL at the one way ticket part...perhaps they know something that you don't?!!

But seriously, get a radioactive body scan before and after working there and let us know how the results.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you feel safer living 50 miles away? 100? 200?
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michi gnome



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo

PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:

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i know some korean power plants have a terrible safety record, (for example a plant just outside of ulsan), but i wouldnt let it stop me. theres a slim chance there'd be an accident.


thanks for the heads up. what kind of safety issues has the Ulsan plant had? I'll do more research online when I get more time.


Weigookin74 wrote:

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Isn't that low for a company position? I always figured that they'd pay much more.


To me it seems OK, since I've only made up to 2.3 in my two previous years in Korea. Still though, when you factor in no bonus, and only a one-way ticket, it does seem low.

Zulethe wrote:

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LOL at the one way ticket part...perhaps they know something that you don't?!!


Good point. In the fine print, it states "we're fairly certain a return ticket will not be necessary". Just kidding.

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But seriously, get a radioactive body scan before and after working there and let us know how the results.


I will make sure to. If you see a foreigner walking around who appears to be glowing, and maybe beginning to grow a tail or an extra limb, please stop and say hi.


Ajuma wrote:

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Would you feel safer living 50 miles away? 100? 200?


Yes, those distances are no problem. Many of us already live within 100-200 miles of a nuclear plant, and don't realize it.

I'm not worried about an accident, as that would be really unlikely. What I'm concerned about is if there is any low-level radiation that routinely escapes or is vented from these plants, and gets into the atmosphere. Are there higher cancer rates for people who live near these places long term? Are there higher levels of radiation in the crops that are grown nearby? How is the water supply?

I don't know, just asking questions. Of course, government & industry will say "it's safe, there are no problems."


How about this for discussion:
How many of you would have no problem working 50, 100, 200 miles from Fukushima?

I personally would not. From all accounts, the cores of several reactors have melted through the containment shells, into the ground below. High levels of radiation leeching into the soil, and toxic water being dumped into the Pacific Ocean. It's an unreported ongoing disaster for the people of Japan, for the health of the oceans, and all life on the planet.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the money and benefits, it sounds about average for a 6 month contract. In fact 2.5 is upper end of average, so you're not going to find a lot of short term jobs offering you 2.6. You're getting accommodations and national health insurance with that job, right? about 20-30 classes per week? Since it's not a hogwon, you might be able to negotiate with your boss to let you teach part-time somewhere else in the evenings or on weekends.

I wouldn't worry to much about the radiation. Regular pollution probably causes a lot more problems.
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Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I know the person who has that job now. She seems to like it, although if we are talking about the same one its between Ulsan and Busan in a pretty isolated spot.
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michi gnome



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troglodyte-

Yes the contract includes accommodation and health insurance. I'll keep in mind the possibility of negotiating to teach privates part-time. Thanks for the advice.

Tyshine-

Is there any way I could contact her? Or possibly relay a couple questions through you?
I've heard the location is kind of isolated, but I haven't been able to find out much more information. The recruiter hasn't been very forthcoming.

I appreciate any help. If not though, no worries.

Thanks
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michi gnome



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting article. A few excerpts below.

http://sanclemente.patch.com/blog_posts/is-it-safe-to-live-anywhere-near-san-onofre



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But accidents like as a Fukushima meltdown are not the only reason to worry.

Recently another ugly possibility has emerged which might threaten the health of everyone nearby: the danger of cancer caused by the radiation that Edison regularly releases into the air and ocean. It just might be that living near a NPP is dangerous even if it runs like a Swiss watch and never has an accident.


What is so toxic about San Onofre? It is no secret that the plant generates about 500 pounds per day of radioactive waste and now stores thousands of tons in pools and casks outside of the containment domes. This material is so deadly that no other place in the United States is willing to store it.


This stored radioactive waste is a huge hazard if there is ever a fire or earthquake or terrorist attack. But it is not only the stored waste that scares people. The dirty little secret that worries public health officials is the regular releases of radiation that are part of the normal operation of every NPP in the world. There are some substances like Tritium (radioactive hydrogen or H3) which are difficult or impossible to contain.



The NRC allows power plants to carry out this dumping (called effluent emissions) because without such releases of radioactivity, nuclear power plants could not operate. The total amount is regulated and anything released is called �low level.� This presupposes that certain levels of radiation are totally harmless, a contention that is disputed.

Some medical authorities say that there is no such thing as a harmless low level. Radiation effects are cumulative, and if you add years or decades of radiation from a NPP to environmental exposure and medical tests you may be doing significant damage at a cellular level which could end up turning into cancer.


San Onofre reactors are fitted with air ejectors which released radioactive byproducts into the atmosphere for 44 hours during the year. Wind direction is sometimes taken into account before a release, but if discharges are needed they will be blown into the atmosphere even if the wind is blowing inland toward residents.

Surfers might be interested to know that last year radioactive liquids were dumped into the ocean for a total of 550 hours. Wouldn�t it be nice if Edison would announce in advance on which days they are doing their ocean dumping? Who would want to be surfing anywhere near ocean releases? It is curious that surfers are alarmed by a highway going near Trestles but they don�t seem upset about nuclear waste being dumped into the ocean.



A lot is at stake for the nuclear industry, but a lot more is at stake for the people who are unlucky enough to have one of the 104 U.S. nuclear reactors in their backyard. Proponents of nuclear power have tried to use scare tactics suggesting we need to take risks because otherwise we can�t run our air conditioners at full blast. But energy officials have come out and said that there is plenty of excess of energy without San Onofre.
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sluggo832004



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyshine wrote:
I think I know the person who has that job now. She seems to like it, although if we are talking about the same one its between Ulsan and Busan in a pretty isolated spot.


I applied for that job!!!!!!!!


Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

It was 2.8 a month.
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd teach at the plant itself if you paid me enough and it was a good gig...lol.

Korea is an industrialized nation. There is not only stringent national standards there are also international regs and organizations as well. Working near a nuke plant would be the least of my worries but I can understand the fear or even being worried.

Personally, i wouldn't worry about it.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accident at South Korea nuclear plant
October 5th 1999
An inquiry has been launched in South Korea after 22 workers at a nuclear plant were exposed to radiation after a coolant leak.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/465858.stm


Severity of South Korean accident concealed
An accident at a nuclear power station in South Korea in April, originally described as a "coolant leakage incident", was in fact a steam generator tube rupture
http://www.wiseinternational.org/node/2753

South Korean Nuclear Plants Riddled with Substandard Parts
November 15th 2012
On 9 November, after microscopic cracks were found in six tunnels that guide control rods to regulate the fission chain reaction in the reactor�s core were discovered in a 1,000 megawatt reactor at the Yonggwang NPP, two of the country�s 23 NPPS were shut down. This was the first time since South Korea started operating NPPs that cracks had been discovered on key components and not basic components, and experts warned that if the NPP had continued to run with the cracks, it could have led to an explosion of the reactor in a worst case scenario.

Worse was to follow.

Last month South Korea�s Ministry of Knowledge Economy announced in the aftermath of the Yonggwang NPP shutdown that a survey had determined that South Korea�s 23 NPPs contained 230 substandard components, after determining that the supply of substandard parts to Korea Hydro & Nuclear Power Co., the state-run operator of the nation�s NPPS, had been going on since 2003.
http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Nuclear-Power/South-Korean-Nuclear-Plants-Riddled-with-Substandard-Parts.html



Greenpeace study finds Korea ill-prepared for nuclear accident
Posted on : Apr.27,2012 11:33 KST
South Korea has largest population living in proximity to operational nuclear plants
http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_business/530253.html
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markness



Joined: 02 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta hope that the Korean Homer isn't working at one of them.
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