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Assault and Arrest laws in Korea
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:

Hitting back, even if it's in self-defense or in defense of others is generally (although not always) considered a crime here.


Offending an ajosshis overblown ego is a crime.
I've seen people sued for telling off an ajosshi in class.

I'VE NEVER seen that!
Therefore, it couldn't be true!
The typical ajosshi would NEVER get upset about a blow to his ego! Unfathomable!
You must be making it up just to make Korea look bad.

Wink
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Will Wiggle



Joined: 22 Apr 2013
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: How it works here Reply with quote

No matter who is in the right, it is best that you do not retaliate and only protect yourself if you feel your life, or another's, is in jeopardy. The system here will find fault with the individual who caused the most damage. I know it is a hard instinct to control, and we all have a sense of justice, but in the end it can really cost you financially or even jail time plus deportation. Besides, if you are physically attacked and do not hit back, you can sue them. That's the truth.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: How it works here Reply with quote

Will Wiggle wrote:
No matter who is in the right, it is best that you do not retaliate and only protect yourself if you feel your life, or another's, is in jeopardy. The system here will find fault with the individual who caused the most damage. I know it is a hard instinct to control, and we all have a sense of justice, but in the end it can really cost you financially or even jail time plus deportation. Besides, if you are physically attacked and do not hit back, you can sue them. That's the truth.


Women don't really understand all the above, they operate more on an instinctual level. No woman will stay with a guy who does not defend her.

Your gandhi policy is not even worth it anyway because as a foreigner you're very unlikely to win in court.
So you may as well do some damage and flee the scene pronto.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Assault and Arrest laws in Korea Reply with quote

kraggy wrote:
Long story short....

1. Taxi driver grabbed my girlfriend
2. I went to protect her. He hit me, I retailiated


What really happened?

Taxi drivers are just driving around randomly grabbling people? Huh?
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Assault and Arrest laws in Korea Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
kraggy wrote:
Long story short....

1. Taxi driver grabbed my girlfriend
2. I went to protect her. He hit me, I retailiated


What really happened?

Taxi drivers are just driving around randomly grabbling people? Huh?


I bet alcohol was involved.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Assault and Arrest laws in Korea Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
kraggy wrote:
Long story short....

1. Taxi driver grabbed my girlfriend
2. I went to protect her. He hit me, I retailiated


What really happened?

Taxi drivers are just driving around randomly grabbling people? Huh?


When it comes to females, yes that is the case.

Taxi drivers have been known to do more than grab female passengers

late at night.
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Waygeek



Joined: 27 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
by "retaliating" I hope you got a good punch in the face, and not a little push or something like that.


Its pretty hard to have both a girlfriend and a clean criminal record in Korea.

Because sooner or later some ajosshi is going to force you to react.


LOL.

Julius wrote:


Women don't really understand all the above, they operate more on an instinctual level. No woman will stay with a guy who does not defend her.

Your gandhi policy is not even worth it anyway because as a foreigner you're very unlikely to win in court.
So you may as well do some damage and flee the scene pronto.


WOOOOOOOOOOW.

Are you... teaching children?
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: How it works here Reply with quote

Will Wiggle wrote:
No matter who is in the right, it is best that you do not retaliate and only protect yourself if you feel your life, or another's, is in jeopardy. The system here will find fault with the individual who caused the most damage. I know it is a hard instinct to control, and we all have a sense of justice, but in the end it can really cost you financially or even jail time plus deportation. Besides, if you are physically attacked and do not hit back, you can sue them. That's the truth.


While I see your logic and I agree with it, I think if someone hit my significant other, or someone else very close to me, I would retaliate.

I'm not a violent person or someone who looks for fights at all, the last time I got into a "fight" was with my brother when we were both teenagers. (Which means, I'd probably get the shit kicked out of me by the Ajossi).

On a side note, does anyone recall the story about the guy(s) who got jumped by a couple of Koreans. I believe the foreigner was taking a piss in the road or something and got a serious beat down. Last I heard, nothing happened to the Korean guys involved.
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been in a lot of close scrapes. Ajoshis get angry and do anything to make you react. I've had one pretending to kick a tree trying to make me hit him, another one was in my face yelling, another one followed me from the bus station to work. With him I just stood there until he walked away.

I figured out early that they are trying to make you react because if you hit them you can get some kind of compensation. Just laugh in their face.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: How it works here Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Will Wiggle wrote:
No matter who is in the right, it is best that you do not retaliate and only protect yourself if you feel your life, or another's, is in jeopardy. The system here will find fault with the individual who caused the most damage. I know it is a hard instinct to control, and we all have a sense of justice, but in the end it can really cost you financially or even jail time plus deportation. Besides, if you are physically attacked and do not hit back, you can sue them. That's the truth.


Women don't really understand all the above, they operate more on an instinctual level. No woman will stay with a guy who does not defend her.

Your gandhi policy is not even worth it anyway because as a foreigner you're very unlikely to win in court.
So you may as well do some damage and flee the scene pronto.


Either this is unintentional comedy or you just crawled out of a cave... Laughing
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: How it works here Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Julius wrote:
Will Wiggle wrote:
No matter who is in the right, it is best that you do not retaliate and only protect yourself if you feel your life, or another's, is in jeopardy. The system here will find fault with the individual who caused the most damage. I know it is a hard instinct to control, and we all have a sense of justice, but in the end it can really cost you financially or even jail time plus deportation. Besides, if you are physically attacked and do not hit back, you can sue them. That's the truth.


Women don't really understand all the above, they operate more on an instinctual level. No woman will stay with a guy who does not defend her.

Your gandhi policy is not even worth it anyway because as a foreigner you're very unlikely to win in court.
So you may as well do some damage and flee the scene pronto.


Either this is unintentional comedy or you just crawled out of a cave... Laughing


Or both Laughing
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: How it works here Reply with quote

Will Wiggle wrote:
No matter who is in the right, it is best that you do not retaliate and only protect yourself if you feel your life, or another's, is in jeopardy. The system here will find fault with the individual who caused the most damage. I know it is a hard instinct to control, and we all have a sense of justice, but in the end it can really cost you financially or even jail time plus deportation. Besides, if you are physically attacked and do not hit back, you can sue them. That's the truth.

Can't see that working out very well in most cases. And it depends on the nature of the attack and how many attackers there are.

Unless it's ALL on CCTV, the local police aren't going to believe you that you didn't retaliate anyway. Especially when the attacker starts lying his socks off and other random locals take his side.

Had this happen to a friend and luckily for him, it WAS on CCTV. Also luckily for him, the attacker couldn't hit worth a darn so he came out of it ok.

Not many good options. Retaliate: you're screwed. Don't retaliate: you're still probably screwed.
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goreality



Joined: 09 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the moral of the story is avoid getting drunk in Itaewon.
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Riddy44



Joined: 03 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Assault and Arrest laws in Korea Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
kraggy wrote:
Long story short....

1. Taxi driver grabbed my girlfriend
2. I went to protect her. He hit me, I retailiated


What really happened?

Taxi drivers are just driving around randomly grabbling people? Huh?


yup this has happened to about 4 females i have known in the past 2 years of being here. One taxi driver even followed a girl I knew into her apartment building. Go roundhouse kick some kimchi before you become the forum "detective"
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:12 am    Post subject: Re: Assault and Arrest laws in Korea Reply with quote

Riddy44 wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
kraggy wrote:
Long story short....

1. Taxi driver grabbed my girlfriend
2. I went to protect her. He hit me, I retailiated


What really happened?

Taxi drivers are just driving around randomly grabbling people? Huh?


yup this has happened to about 4 females i have known in the past 2 years of being here. One taxi driver even followed a girl I knew into her apartment building. Go roundhouse kick some kimchi before you become the forum "detective"


I saw that one time. A woman ran into the restaurant screaming to get away from a taxi driver outside who eventually pulled away and drove off.

The restaurant staff seemed entirely unfazed by it all like it was something entirely normal.

Thats why you will always see Korean women getting into the back seat away from the driver (rather than the passenger side).
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