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Gangnam teachers and the Psycopath Test
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rockbilly



Joined: 19 Mar 2013

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: The problem is with teaching Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
rockbilly wrote:
For the record, I live in Gangnam. I'm an ex-teacher.

What is your job now? I saw your videos; you rock at Korean!


Heh heh heh! I'm a gentleman.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that you know Korean, you can become a Korean teacher. That could be a decent option.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waygeek wrote:
A very very high percentage of Waygooks are absolute nutters..


True, but many Korean coworkers are toxic passive aggressive types.

I've never met such an adversarial people in my life. The hostility is less direct than with westerners, but no less potent.
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are serial killers everywhere but aren't you most likely to find serial killers in America? So, wouldn't American teachers be the most likely types?

Also, the Korea is full of nutters line is true. We are all a little off I suppose. Some are ecletic but interestingly ecletic or quirky or whatever...others? Well, we all have seen the ones who we are sure they came here because they were outcasts back home.

Also, there are a few folks who never had any sort of power and get in a classroom and get power mad. Their classrooms are their own little fiefdoms and they run it as if they are Severus Snape.
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yesmynameisweird



Joined: 29 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Gangnam teachers and the Psycopath Test Reply with quote

itiswhatitis wrote:
Recently I read the book "The Psycopath Test" by Jon Ronson.

I have had a few different jobs in Korea and my co-workers were a very mixed group. However my six months at a kindy hagwon in Gangnam seemed to attract a real toxic group. I personally took the job because I wanted to work day shift and because I thought that it would be a legit. teaching job (without getting into detail it was the least legit. teaching job that I have ever had in Korea).

Of course giving someone the label of being a psycopath is serious. Having said that I consider 2 of my former co-workers (both native teachers) to be highly likely to be psycopaths. I don't want to get into detail, but they had both worked there for some time and were quite proud of the power that they had and that they had the power to ruin people in the workplace as sport.

In the book "The Psycopath Test" Ronson notes that within the UK prison system that the great majority of the psycopaths are in London prisons and that the prisons in Scotland have significantly less psycopaths. This is because psycopaths are attracted to the glitz of the big city/London.

A thought: does the same apply to those who live/want to live in Gangnam.

I would NEVER take a job in Gangnam again (not at a kindy at least) after my experience there.

Any stories/thoughts????

Is my experience representative or just random bad luck???

Thanks!!!


"Toxic" is different from psychopathic. Very.

If you ever met a real psychpath or sociopath, your head would be spinning for years. Their manipulations are so deep and bewildering and perfectly, brilliantly blindsiding that you often don't even realize who you were actually dealing with until long after they are out of your life.

Those people you described sound opportunistic, maybe grossly opportunistic with Machiavellian personal style. But do you really think you can read a pop psychology book and suddenly have insight into who merits the label 'psychopath'

I have heard other teachers in Korea talking about this book. It seems to be making the rounds in some circles. Well just remember, when you point a finger at someone else, there are four.... (you surely know the rest....)
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yesmynameisweird



Joined: 29 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waygeek wrote:
A very very high percentage of Waygooks are absolute nutters. Not just in Gangnam.


LOL Welcome to Planet Earth. Welcome. Did you just arrive yesterday?
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itiswhatitis



Joined: 08 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
Interesting, is the guy who wrote this book British?


Yes, a British author.

Thanks for the input!
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Waygeek



Joined: 27 Feb 2013

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Waygeek wrote:
A very very high percentage of Waygooks are absolute nutters..


True, but many Korean coworkers are toxic passive aggressive types.

I've never met such an adversarial people in my life. The hostility is less direct than with westerners, but no less potent.


Incredible how you managed to turn my post into something anti-Korean... since I'm pretty sure Koreans weren't mentioned in any way whatsoever.
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alistaircandlin



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waygeek wrote:


Incredible how you managed to turn my post into something anti-Korean... since I'm pretty sure Koreans weren't mentioned in any way whatsoever.


Yeah, incredible! Keep on the topic of anti-Britishness please.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book is really worth reading. I listened to the audiobook and found it to bo both funny and educational.
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