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[Zackback]

1. Is the thought and pursuit of going to Mars simply a diversion to the filth and mess we created on planet Earth?
2. That's a whole lot of money to simply say "Hey, we were there"!
3. On a lighter note will they be playing the Backyardigans "Mission to Mars" on take off?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5i_AbRROQ


NASA says setting foot on Mars is 'human destiny'
A view from NASA's Mars rover Curiosity of the 'John Klein' patch of flat rock within Gale Crater's Yellowknife Bay area. Setting foot on Mars by the 2030s is human destiny and a US priority, and every dollar available must be spent on bridging gaps in knowledge on how to get there, NASA's chief said Monday.
A view from NASA's Mars rover Curiosity of the 'John Klein' patch of flat rock within Gale Crater's Yellowknife Bay area. Setting foot on Mars by the 2030s is human destiny and a US priority, and every dollar available must be spent on bridging gaps in knowledge on how to get there, NASA's chief said Monday.

AFP - Setting foot on Mars by the 2030s is human destiny and a US priority, and every dollar available must be spent on bridging gaps in knowledge on how to get there, NASA's chief said Monday.

Addressing a conference of space experts at George Washington University, NASA administrator Charles Bolden said that despite hard economic times the United States is committed to breaking new boundaries in space exploration.

"A human mission to Mars is today the ultimate destination in our solar system for humanity, and it is a priority for NASA. Our entire exploration program is aligned to support this goal," Bolden said.

President Barack Obama has proposed a $17.7 billion dollar budget for NASA in 2014, and he supports a "vibrant and coordinated strategy for Mars exploration," Bolden said.

Among the first steps to sending astronauts to Mars are NASA's plans to capture and relocate an asteroid by 2025, a process that should inform future efforts to send humans into deep space, the former astronaut said.

Also, US astronaut Scott Kelly has volunteered to spend one year at the International Space Station in 2015 to allow doctors to assess how long-duration zero gravity exposure affects bone density, muscle mass and vision.

Currently, a rotating cast of global astronauts each spend a maximum of six months aboard the orbiting outpost.

But despite increasing interest in landing on Mars, and a newly diverse space race that involves many countries instead just of old Cold War foes the United States and Russia, there is plenty that experts just do not know about how to reach Mars.

For instance, there is no existing space vehicle to carry people on the seven-month or longer journey there, not to mention no plan for returning people to Earth.

Medical experts are unsure what the physical ramifications would be for people who attempt to travel in high-radiation environments for such extended periods.

And just how people would survive, breathe, eat and drink on the dry, red planet are significant obstacles that have yet to be overcome.

"The US has demonstrated that we know how to get to the Moon," Bolden said.

"What we have not demonstrated and what I think everyone in this room -- well most people in this room will concede, is that there are technological gaps to sending humans to an asteroid and to Mars," he added.

"And so every single moment of our time and every single dollar of our assets must be dedicated to developing those technologies that allow us to go beyond low Earth orbit, beyond the Moon."

The United States is the only nation that has successfully sent robotic explorers to land on Mars, the most recent being the Curiosity rover which touched down in August 2012.

The first-of-its-kind landing demonstrated that humans have figured out how to send a one-tonne package of machinery to Mars.

But many experts believe that the size of the package needed to maintain a human habitat on Mars would weigh more like 40 tonnes. There also needs to be a suitable flight vehicle, and a type of fuel potent enough to get it there quickly.

Perhaps a precursor to a human landing on Mars would be another rover that would land at an established site, drill down and hopefully find fresh water, said John Grunsfeld, associate administrator for the science mission directorate.

"That would also be the beacon that allows subsequent missions to navigate to a very precise landing," said Grunsfeld.
http://www.france24.com/en/20130506-nasa-says-setting-foot-mars-human-destiny

[KimchiNinja]

Interesting.

The problem is humans have adapted over millions of years to this specific environment. One sun, a certain level of gravity, the food and water here, the germs here. We aren't adapted for living on other planets nor in space. And of course you gotta live a long time in space before you reach another planet!

Dude could come back all shriveled up for life, or totally space crazy! And do they have porn in the spaceship? These are the questions I ask.

[le-paul]

i dont think theres any intention of trying to bring people back at this point. from what i remember, the space agencies doing this research are expecting the travellers to get ripped to pieces by particles because theres no natural shield in the atmosphere of mars.

anyway, i feel this o.post warrants a reply because its big news and is taking us into the future.
however, i dont really have anything to say other than im excited to see what will happen.
who cares how much it costs. more money has been wasted on worse things than this until now. could you really say the money spent on any exploration is a waste to mankind?

[young_clinton]

When are they going to Mars? The public doesn't seem to be interested enough to foot the bill.

[young_clinton]

[FDNY]

[le-paul]

why would you need porn? do astronauts even have socks?

how would it be practical?
"damn, whats that flashing red light? could you just nip outside and check on that for me please?"
" thats the 6th time this week!"
"ahem..."

[augustine]

[jvalmer]

[augustine]

[le-paul]

i dont want to be the wet blanket and ruin the porn thread, but on a serious note, i dont know where youre getting all this 'guys in space' from?
last year, the space agencies were advertising couples to go to mars together ( as a one way trip). i think they considered ye sexual repercussions of being cooped up together.

[augustine]

The number of women on wikipedia's list of apollo astronauts is, wait for it, zero. Though those missions are all old.

The Mars to Stay program is what you're talking about. But I think you'd have to be close to crazy if you wanted to spend the rest of your life on Mars. I doubt that the couples that that program would attract would be the most fit.

[Dodge7]

[transmogrifier]

Newsflash: your decision to give up porn was just that, your decision. You should be proud of YOURSELF, not some puppetmaster within you.

[augustine]

That blows, man.