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[korea.teacher]

http://news.yahoo.com/japanese-mayor-wartime-sex-slaves-were-necessary-042050746.html

"An outspoken nationalist mayor said the Japanese military's forced prostitution of Asian women before and during World War II was necessary to "maintain discipline" in the ranks and provide rest for soldiers who risked their lives in battle."

"Toru Hashimoto, the young, brash mayor of Osaka who is co-leader of an emerging conservative political party, also said that U.S. troops currently based in southern Japan should patronize the local sex industry more to help reduce rapes and other assaults."

How do you feel about this issue?

[Fox]

Maybe it was somewhat necessary to maintain discipline during the massive campaign of aggressive warfare the Japanese launched during World War II, but that aggressive warfare itself wasn't necessary, so this doesn't seem like much of an excuse. "Of course we had to seize your women and force them to be sex slaves, how else could we keep our soldiers sufficiently disciplined to kill your men and conquer your lands?"

That said, it's always a treat when the Japanese speak frankly.

[Titus]

A jarring comment. His moral universe begins and ends with the Japanese and ethics do not apply to non-Japanese whatsoever. The Koreans are exactly the same (Chinese too), which is probably why every group in that region detests the other groups.

[Kuros]

The Hiroshima bomb was necessary.

[le-paul]

[maximmm]

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/01/25/japa-j25.html

Starting with -Old people should die faster to improve our economy -
Is anyone surprised by politicians anymore these days?

It reminds me of one American politician that called rape pregnancies a gift from god.

Nations are now governed by imbeciles - if you watch the film 'Idiocracy' - you know it's only going to get worse.

I keep thinking that it's Bush that really started the whole 'dumb and dumber' competition among the politicians.

[OneWayTraffic]

Fortunately for us there were a lot of things wrong with the premise of that movie.

It was still brilliant.

[maximmm]

[Kuros]

[maximmm]

[rollo]

pleasant thoughts. This guy is trash. period. he justifies raping 200,000 women because the troops needed discipline, because those troops were busy killing 50 million chinese civilians.

When the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima killing 100,000 civilians, over 150,000 civilians a month were dying in the Asian war mostlyin china. So by shortening the war lives were saved.

The nest big war, odds are North Asia, that's what history tells us and look at all the jostling and sabre rattling going on right now. yeah nuke will probably be used.

[Kuros]

Hashimoto doubles down

[Julius]

It never ceases to amaze me how dumb our political leaders tend to be.


Whats scary is how powerful this collection of chauvinists, narcissists and and ignoramuses actually are.

[Udo]

For any of you who have been in Korea or the Pacific for awhile will remember the comments of the number 1 Commander in the Pacific - Admiral Macke. This happened in 1995 in Okinawa I beleive after the rape of a 12 year old girl. You can look up his comments but I think that it's been scrubbed from Pacific Stars & Stripes.
Absolute firestorm in the U.S. In Asia , just a shrug of shoulders.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/11/18/world/admiral-has-to-quit-over-his-comments-on-okinawa-rape.html

The commander of United States forces in the Pacific was forced to step down today after he said the recent rape of a 12-year-old Okinawan girl could have been avoided if the American servicemen involved had simply paid for a prostitute.

The commander, Adm. Richard C. Macke, apologized after members of Congress and Japanese officials complained, but it was too late.

Admiral Macke, a 57-year-old Annapolis graduate and combat veteran of the war in Vietnam, announced late in the day that he had decided to take early retirement, and both White House and the Defense Department made clear that he had been forced to do so.

Admiral Macke declined to comment on the matter this evening.

A senior White House official said tonight that Anthony Lake, the national security adviser, had heard of Admiral Macke's remarks and told the Defense Department that the statements were "not acceptable."

The official added, "They didn't have to be coaxed," and Admiral Macke was forced to step down.



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Defense Secretary William J. Perry said tonight that Admiral Macke had acknowledged that he had made a "serious mistake."

"This evening Admiral Macke and I discussed the comment and its impact on our valued relations with Japan and Okinawa," he said. "We decided that his lapse of judgment was so serious that he would be unable to perform effectively his duties as Commander in Chief of U.S. Forces in the Pacific. As a result, Admiral Macke offered to retire, and I accepted his early retirement."

Admiral Macke later issued a statement apologizing for his comment. "I made a serious mistake this morning," the statement said. "My recent comment was the result of my frustration over the stupidity of this heinous and incomprehensible crime against the young lady. I regret any misunderstanding my comment may have cause."

Admiral Macke also noted that he had repeatedly expressed sympathy for the girl.

The immediate reaction in Japan was subdued. Japanese television reported the admiral's resignation without mentioning his comments on the rape.

Still, a Foreign Ministry spokesman criticized the admiral's comments. "The remarks by Admiral Macke are most inappropriate in view of the terrible incident that took place in Okinawa," the spokesman, Takeshi Nakane, said.

The episode caused yet another strain in United States relations with Japan. First, there was the rape itself. On Nov. 7, the three American servicemen pleaded guilty to conspiring to kidnap and rape the girl.

Then on Wednesday, President Clinton canceled a planned trip to Japan for a Pacific Rim economic conference because of his long-running stalemate with the Republicans in Congress over the budget.

Then came the admiral's statement to reporters today. "I think that it was absolutely stupid, I've said several times," Admiral Macke said of the rape. "For the price they paid to rent the car they could have had a girl."

A Defense Department official said Admiral Macke had made his comment toward the end of a breakfast meeting with reporters this morning.

The official said that after Secretary Perry was told of it, he spoke by telephone with the United States Ambassador to Japan, Walter F. Mondale. Then Mr. Perry called Mr. Clinton and recommended that Admiral Macke be made to retire, and the President concurred, the official said.

Before the resignation was reported, Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, said she was stunned by the admiral's remarks condoning prostitution.

"I would say to Navy Secretary John Dalton, 'Your guys still don't get it,' " she said. "You better teach them, or else. Rape isn't about money and it isn't about sex. It's about power over women, and it's a very degrading, terrible, major felony."

Admiral Macke is the latest naval officer to become involved in a matter involving insensitivity toward women or outright assault.

The Navy was racked by the Tailhook scandal in 1991, when dozens of women were sexually assaulted by naval officers. Most recently, the Navy Secretary canceled the promotion of the officer in charge of equal opportunity, even after he was acquitted in a court martial on charges of sexually harassing a woman who worked for him.

[rollo]

udo; wHAT THE BLUE DOES A CRIME COMMITTED ON oKINAWA AND STUPID STATEMENT BY AN OFFICER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC ?

jUST TRYING TO BASH THE u.s. bORING AND SHOW YOUR TOTAL LACK OF COMPASSION FOR THE 200 THOUSAND WOMEN THE jAPANESE FORCED IN TO SEX SLAVERY.

baCK TO YOUR BUKKAKE AND LET THE ADULTS HAVE A DISCUSSION.