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Will a D-10 work for transfering from hagwon to hagwon?

 
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Threequalseven



Joined: 08 May 2012

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:32 pm    Post subject: Will a D-10 work for transfering from hagwon to hagwon? Reply with quote

My girlfriend and I want to extend our current hagwon contract (and E-2s) by two months and finish at the end of October. That way, we can have a little vacation, see friends and family for the holidays, and come back to Korea sometime around February. We want to apply to two different daytime hagwon positions in Seoul, so then we can find jobs that are close together (as opposed to doing the public school gamble). If possible, it would be nice to avoid the cost and hassle of getting all the E-2 documentation again.

Has anybody done this or know if this would work? Is there any situation where a private school wouldn't be able to accept a D-10? Thanks!
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, to question. It should work out fine.

Last edited by Skippy on Tue May 21, 2013 12:08 am; edited 1 time in total
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Skippy



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes
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Threequalseven



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, do we just go to immi and apply for the D-10, fly home, fly back in February, and pick up our D-10s at the airport?

(Two more questions)
- Do we need a letter of release since we plan on finishing our contract?
- Do we need to pay for health checks again once we come back?

I'm hoping someone who's done this can help me out. Thanks!
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, do we just go to immi and apply for the D-10, fly home, fly back in February, and pick up our D-10s at the airport?

yes, yes, yes, no. The D-10 is applied for at immigration and either given that day on ARC or ARC is taken and return later.


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- Do we need a letter of release since we plan on finishing our contract?

No, but having it can make things go smoother at immigration.

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Do we need to pay for health checks again once we come back?

Likely not, but hold off until immigration asks you to provide one. Which might happen when you transfer your D-10 to a new E2. Do be aware that if you have left Korea for more then 90 days you will have to submit a new CRC.
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Threequalseven



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Do be aware that if you have left Korea for more then 90 days you will have to submit a new CRC.

Thanks a ton! This last line is a bit worrisome, though. We could return within 90 days, but that would force both of us to find work by January. Do you have any more information on this? I wonder who we would need to send the CRC to.

(Also, that's a pretty funny requirement, since I'd probably apply for the darn thing before leaving Korea anyway. Rolling Eyes )
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threequalseven wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Do be aware that if you have left Korea for more then 90 days you will have to submit a new CRC.

Thanks a ton! This last line is a bit worrisome, though. We could return within 90 days, but that would force both of us to find work by January. Do you have any more information on this? I wonder who we would need to send the CRC to.

(Also, that's a pretty funny requirement, since I'd probably apply for the darn thing before leaving Korea anyway. Rolling Eyes )


Immigration requirement to change back to an E2 from a D10 if you are out for more than 90 days (consecutively) and a MOE requirement for those on other visas (f2, F4, F5, F6).

Posted on the immigration website.

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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threequalseven wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Do be aware that if you have left Korea for more then 90 days you will have to submit a new CRC.

Thanks a ton! This last line is a bit worrisome, though. We could return within 90 days, but that would force both of us to find work by January. Do you have any more information on this? I wonder who we would need to send the CRC to.

(Also, that's a pretty funny requirement, since I'd probably apply for the darn thing before leaving Korea anyway. Rolling Eyes )


All the visa stuff like CRC, Degree, Health arefor immigration. Schools and recruiters do ask for things all the time, more often it is for immigration purposes. Sometimes they ask because they THINK they need it. You might have to explain somtimes that you are on a D-10 and some immigration issues like visa trip can be avoided. Only give the paperwork over when you find a job you like and are sure. Hell, you even you can do the transfer yourself and keep the paperwork till needed.

It is not a really silly requirement. It is logical in the sense people could commit a crime back home. Yes it is a little unfair and hard to fulfill. The FBI check can take months at times. But given 90 days and heck you know you are leaving in October. Apply now and it will be ready in a couple of months and will be good for six months from date of issue. With some forethought and planning you can easily overcome this obstacle. Even take it a bit slow and you can save money.

Here is the mention from immigration website ttompatz mentioned.
http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/NtcCotnDetailR_en.pt?pageSpec=&targetRow=&lafjOrderBy=&sRange=&sKeyWord=&bbsGbCd=BS10&bbsSeq=2&ntccttSeq=32&pageCode=list&langCd=EN&bbsNm=Notice
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Threequalseven



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
It is not a really silly requirement. It is logical in the sense people could commit a crime back home.

It's silly because if I did commit a crime back home, it still wouldn't show up on my CRC if I applied for it before leaving Korea. And since the D-10 as well as the CRC are only good for six months, it's almost certain that people are going to apply for the CRC right away, negating any reason for getting it in the first place.
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Waygeek



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you come back on a D-10? Why wouldn't you just find jobs on the web and let your workplaces start the E-2 process?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threequalseven wrote:
Skippy wrote:
It is not a really silly requirement. It is logical in the sense people could commit a crime back home.

It's silly because if I did commit a crime back home, it still wouldn't show up on my CRC if I applied for it before leaving Korea. And since the D-10 as well as the CRC are only good for six months, it's almost certain that people are going to apply for the CRC right away, negating any reason for getting it in the first place.


Actually the reason is to cover the POE/Immigration/the school's rear in case you do commit a crime or something while in Korea. Then they can hold up the CRC and say "Well he had a clean one..."


Since it's a requirement by the MOE all respective departments that deal with foreign teachers need one on file.
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Threequalseven



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waygeek wrote:
Why would you come back on a D-10? Why wouldn't you just find jobs on the web and let your workplaces start the E-2 process?

Are you being serious? Let's see...
    - University degree notarization - Time out of your day
    - Copy of university degree - Need to find a scanner and printer somewhere
    - University degree apostille - 2-8 week wait plus fee (depending on state)
    - Sealed transcripts - 2-4 week wait plus $12 fee for each one
    - Transcript stamp - A trip back to the University if they didn't stamp the seal
    - Passport photos - A trip to the DMV plus up to $40 fee
    - Passport copy - Need to find a scanner and printer somewhere
    - Fingerprints - Make an appointment with local PD, take time out of your day to go, plus fee
    - Criminal Background Check - Buy a big envelope, send fingerprints plus $18 fee and shipping, wait 6-8 weeks
    - CBC apostille - Buy another envelope, send CBC plus $8 and shipping, wait 2-4 weeks
    - Copy of CBC and apostille - Need to find a scanner and printer again
    - Express ship all of this with your contract to Korea - $90 plus about 2 weeks wait
    - Receive your visa number - Find another envelope, make a copy of your drivers license, send visa form and passport to the consulate, wait another 2 weeks
    - Now multiply all of this x2 if you're coming with your partner, and keep everything organized while staying at a non-permanent address.

Perhaps there are some people out there so crazy that they might want to avoid going through all this hassle a second time...?
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