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atwood
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Waygeek
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South Korea does the only safe, sane thing as they discover faults in the working of Nuclear Power plants.
Waygookin makes whinge post about Air Conditioning.
Are you serious right now???
I'm glad they did this. It was the safe thing to do. Last thing we need is another Chernobyl or Fukushima. Doubt that cabling would have caused such a serious incident, but I'm glad they show as much responsibility with Nuclear power as they should. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Waygeek wrote: |
South Korea does the only safe, sane thing as they discover faults in the working of Nuclear Power plants.
Waygookin makes whinge post about Air Conditioning.
Are you serious right now???
I'm glad they did this. It was the safe thing to do. Last thing we need is another Chernobyl or Fukushima. Doubt that cabling would have caused such a serious incident, but I'm glad they show as much responsibility with Nuclear power as they should. |
So thanks to corrupt workers and officials they have to shut down a bunch of power plants, thus forecasting power shortages, and you point the finger at me?
"The only safe, sane thing" would have been for these people to do their jobs in the first place instead of falsifying certificates. Yea, man, they've screwed things up royally by cutting corners to pocket the big won, and you want to blame the foreigner?
You've got your head way,way up your backside. |
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optik404
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| Companies cut corners and the people suffer. What's new? |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| Companies cut corners and the people suffer. What's new? |
It happened in Korea, therefore we should roll our eyes, make snarky comment about Korean people, and ignore the fact that this happens in our countries too. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| Waygeek wrote: |
| optik404 wrote: |
| Companies cut corners and the people suffer. What's new? |
It happened in Korea, therefore we should roll our eyes, make snarky comment about Korean people, and ignore the fact that this happens in our countries too. |
I don't know; it's worth noting and discussing because it directly affects us now. Whether it happens overseas is irrelevant to the fact it is happening right now, where I live.
Surely you are able now to tune out those posters that delight in detailing all of Korea's faults? Much in the same way as I tune out Steelrails  |
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maximmm
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Ignore Waygeek if you can - nothing to see here.
He's a part of the patrickbusan/steelrails/waygeek trio. Any problem you may encounter here - it gets diverted by 'ah, but look at USA/UK/Japan/etc'
Or - 'it's not not their problem, it's YOUR problem!'
Or - 'You think it's a problem only because you are in Korea. If you were back in your own country, you wouldn't be complaining, you racist!'
It's all been done before many, many times. It's an old and a very much broken record player that plays the same tune again and again and again.
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: |
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The irony of this..is that 2 (not sure if the same two) were shut down last summer when new inspections after the Japanese meltdown revealed some issue..and guess what? No blackouts other than one that I recall, and that one lasted no more than 15 minutes.
Its not like we are talking about several hour long rolling blackouts as in LA. 23 plants supply only 30 percent of the energy....so despite Yahoo and its notorious reporting (drama) its not as if 2 plants are going to have some dramatic impact on the power supply. |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:26 am Post subject: |
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The irony of this..is that 2 (not sure if the same two) were shut down last summer when new inspections after the Japanese meltdown revealed some issue..and guess what? No blackouts other than one that I recall, and that one lasted no more than 15 minutes.
Its not like we are talking about several hour long rolling blackouts as in LA. 23 plants supply only 30 percent of the energy....so despite Yahoo and its notorious reporting (drama) its not as if 2 plants are going to have some dramatic impact on the power supply. |
IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!
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I don't know; it's worth noting and discussing because it directly affects us now. Whether it happens overseas is irrelevant to the fact it is happening right now, where I live.
Surely you are able now to tune out those posters that delight in detailing all of Korea's faults? Much in the same way as I tune out Steelrails |
Fair points all. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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The irony of this..is that 2 (not sure if the same two) were shut down last summer when new inspections after the Japanese meltdown revealed some issue..and guess what? No blackouts other than one that I recall, and that one lasted no more than 15 minutes.
Its not like we are talking about several hour long rolling blackouts as in LA. 23 plants supply only 30 percent of the energy....so despite Yahoo and its notorious reporting (drama) its not as if 2 plants are going to have some dramatic impact on the power supply. |
What do you expect? It's California. If something could logically be done quickly, you take hundreds of folks and debate it death to the point of paralysis and make no final decision on it. Hence, the power shortages and brownouts.... |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
The irony of this..is that 2 (not sure if the same two) were shut down last summer when new inspections after the Japanese meltdown revealed some issue..and guess what? No blackouts other than one that I recall, and that one lasted no more than 15 minutes.
Its not like we are talking about several hour long rolling blackouts as in LA. 23 plants supply only 30 percent of the energy....so despite Yahoo and its notorious reporting (drama) its not as if 2 plants are going to have some dramatic impact on the power supply. |
There weren't any blackouts and probably won't be because the government strictly regulated the use of electricity last summer and I guess will again this summer, threatening to heavily fine companies and institutions that went over the limits. Plus the TV campaign aimed at the general public that asked everyone to use their AC less.
Power outages are not the issue; it's that a supposedly developed country can't provide its citizens with the energy necessary to work and relax in comfort during the summer months. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| Waygeek wrote: |
South Korea does the only safe, sane thing as they discover faults in the working of Nuclear Power plants.
Waygookin makes whinge post about Air Conditioning.
Are you serious right now???
I'm glad they did this. It was the safe thing to do. Last thing we need is another Chernobyl or Fukushima. Doubt that cabling would have caused such a serious incident, but I'm glad they show as much responsibility with Nuclear power as they should. |
So thanks to corrupt workers and officials they have to shut down a bunch of power plants, thus forecasting power shortages, and you point the finger at me?
"The only safe, sane thing" would have been for these people to do their jobs in the first place instead of falsifying certificates. Yea, man, they've screwed things up royally by cutting corners to pocket the big won, and you want to blame the foreigner?
You've got your head way,way up your backside. |
Bit of column A and a bit of column B. Yes, the safe thing to do was to shut it down, but if they weren't such incompetent and corrupt idiots it wouldn't have happened in the first place. Just look at the article again:
"..test results for crucial control cables were falsified"
"..prosecuted for taking bribes from contractors to accept substandard parts and machinery"
".."Corruption is widespread in the nuclear industry."
Bribery and corruption is so normal in Korean society that Korean people seem to have stopped giving a shit - and yes it does happen in other countries too, so I saved SR and co the trouble of chiming in with that old chestnut. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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This could have ended up so much worse. There have been a couple of disasters caused by building with shoddy construction materials, so some corrupt bastard could have some extra coin.
"In 1994 the Seongsu Bridge in Seoul collapsed, killing 32 people and the following year the Sampoong Department Store collapsed, claiming more then 500 lives (NCE 6 July 1995).
These disasters sparked national outrage − contractors had been found to be cutting corners and corruption was at the heart. The government responded by keeping contractors under very tight control to ensure was no repeat. Projects have layers of engineering design scrutiny and often foreign input to inject new ideas."
http://www.nce.co.uk/korean-colossus-incheon-bridge/5202049.article |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| Waygeek wrote: |
It happened in Korea, therefore we should roll our eyes, make snarky comment about Korean people, and ignore the fact that this happens in our countries too. |
The OP had none of this. You inferred it. Way to lower the bar for your fellow apologists, if that were even possible. |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Sensible measure that is the result of shoddy construction and of corruption in the construction industry.
At least they took measures to avoid a potential disaster and did not just ignore the issue hoping for the best. Still, this all stems from the way the plants were constructed and maintained. |
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