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100,000 African men coming to korea
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucas wrote:


Will they be AIDS tested?



Interesting question, especially considering the HIV rate in their country.
Posting a link and info because someone will claim it to be a "racist" question. In reality it's a valid question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Malawi

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In 2005, approximately 14.3 percent of the adult population ages 15 to 49 in Malawi was living with HIV/AIDS. With one of the highest adult prevalence rates in the world, the epidemic has exacerbated social problems as diverse as food security, human resource capacity and national defense.
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dongjak



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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
I wonder how many immigrants will stay in Korea. Will they be able to integrate into Korean society or will we start seeing areas of Seoul becoming little America, little Africa, etc.
I see a lot of Western countries struggling with the integration aspect of immigrants.


A low skilled worker is only allowed to stay in Korea for 4 years and ten months and then they have to leave, the Korean government wants to prevent permanent settlement which you can apply for after 5 years on the same visa. But at the same time the quota for the number of low skilled workers allowed into the country is never enough to support the needs of the small and medium sized businesses so there is a huge number of illegal workers because they are overstaying their visas.

There was a study done a couple of years ago on low skilled migrant workers in Korea and one of the questions asked to the businesses was about which nation of migrant workers do you prefer, and most preferred African because they were considered harder workers than those from other countries. Ethnic Koreans from China were not that preferred, I think it is because they are more aware of their rights.

And the Korean governments migration scheme now allows low skilled migrants from 15 approved countries, does this mean that the quota of E-9 visas has increased? And Malawi has been added to the approved country list?
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No_hite_pls



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dairyairy wrote:
Lucas wrote:


Will they be AIDS tested?



Interesting question, especially considering the HIV rate in their country.
Posting a link and info because someone will claim it to be a "racist" question. In reality it's a valid question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Malawi

Quote:
In 2005, approximately 14.3 percent of the adult population ages 15 to 49 in Malawi was living with HIV/AIDS. With one of the highest adult prevalence rates in the world, the epidemic has exacerbated social problems as diverse as food security, human resource capacity and national defense.


It's a very valid argument and not a "racist" one at all. Workers from Malawi should be tested for AIDS way before NET's.
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Binch Lover



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting how history repeats itself. It appears most people are unaware of Park Chung-hee's policy of sending Koreans abroad in the 60s and 70s.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Germany

I wonder if the Koreans are going to be willing to let many of them settle down in the country.
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dairyairy



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nyasatimes.com/2013/05/21/malawi-youth-to-get-k450-000-per-month-wages-in-south-korea-pp/

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Malawi youth to get K450 000 per month wages in South Korea


Manna said out of the K450 000, workers will have K50 000 as an upkeep allowance, whereby the remaining amount will be deposited in the accounts in Malawi. They will work there for a period of four years where they will have
an option of renewing the contract.

Minister of Labour Eunice Makangala said they received 5 000 applications for jobs in South Korea against government�s required 320 positions.

The first group to South Korea is supposed to leave this month end as their services are needed soon, according to the minister.



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radcon



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modern day slavery. If Korean companies want cheap Malawi labor, go build a factory in Malawi. 450,000 a month? Why should Korean companies not even pay people working on Korean soil the Korean minimum wage?
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No_hite_pls



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, at about 650,000 a month (including housing and electricity) the Korean companies will be making great profits and Malawi will get some much needed foreign currency. What Korean companies will be benefiting from these labors? I want to invest in those companies. They're will be some big profits to be made.
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
Modern day slavery. If Korean companies want cheap Malawi labor, go build a factory in Malawi. 450,000 a month? Why should Korean companies not even pay people working on Korean soil the Korean minimum wage?


It's called globalization. It has a depressing effect on wages.
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radcon



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
radcon wrote:
Modern day slavery. If Korean companies want cheap Malawi labor, go build a factory in Malawi. 450,000 a month? Why should Korean companies not even pay people working on Korean soil the Korean minimum wage?


It's called globalization. It has a depressing effect on wages.


I'm all for free markets and globalization and all that good stuff. But will these workers upon entering Korea then be able to sell their labor to the highest bidders? Will they be able to withhold their labor to bargain for higher wages? I think we all know the answer.
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cabeza



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S. Korea Denies Report of Plan to Import 100,000 Malawi Workers

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-05-31/s-dot-korea-denies-report-of-plan-to-import-100-000-malawi-workers

It's not happening now, or it never was in the first place. Weird.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cabeza wrote:
S. Korea Denies Report of Plan to Import 100,000 Malawi Workers

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-05-31/s-dot-korea-denies-report-of-plan-to-import-100-000-malawi-workers

It's not happening now, or it never was in the first place. Weird.


What I'm thinking happened is that the program calls for a much smaller number of workers over a set period of time, probably (key phrase 'up to') 6,800 a year or so over 15 years.

Politician or news agency on either side (or independent) trying to make a story turns it into 100,000.
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I-am-me



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least Female english teachers will have more options than just Nigerian marriage partners. Smile
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happiness



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dairyairy wrote:
Just wondering why we had to read about this in the foreign media. Why no coverage in Korea?


well duh, itll raise rackles, but that said, no locals will take those jobs. To me, it just shows the economy is number one, of course, and thats a good modern stance. If the locals oppose, the onyl way to fix it it for them to do those jobs.

I wont say its nationalism, I just think its a richer country getting richer and wanting to conitnue its economy.
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dairyairy



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
cabeza wrote:
S. Korea Denies Report of Plan to Import 100,000 Malawi Workers

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-05-31/s-dot-korea-denies-report-of-plan-to-import-100-000-malawi-workers

It's not happening now, or it never was in the first place. Weird.


What I'm thinking happened is that the program calls for a much smaller number of workers over a set period of time, probably (key phrase 'up to') 6,800 a year or so over 15 years.

Politician or news agency on either side (or independent) trying to make a story turns it into 100,000.


Yeah, or it could be "up to 100,000" followed by "We'll see."
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dairyairy wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
cabeza wrote:
S. Korea Denies Report of Plan to Import 100,000 Malawi Workers

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-05-31/s-dot-korea-denies-report-of-plan-to-import-100-000-malawi-workers

It's not happening now, or it never was in the first place. Weird.


What I'm thinking happened is that the program calls for a much smaller number of workers over a set period of time, probably (key phrase 'up to') 6,800 a year or so over 15 years.

Politician or news agency on either side (or independent) trying to make a story turns it into 100,000.


Yeah, or it could be "up to 100,000" followed by "We'll see."


The logistics involved dictate that 100,000 is HIGHLY unlikely. To move 100,000 people across the world requires MASSIVE logistics investment.
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