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sigmundsmith
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
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 Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: Be honest! |
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Ok be honest how many people applied for the cream Hongik University job? Yes, the application requirements (paperwork) was more than the normal
Did you supply everything in the list? If you didn't by Monday 3 (application deadline) you will not get a look in!
So traditionally, Hongik got about 400 applicants - I don't know how many there are now. But It is all quiet on this board. No one is sharing information compared to other university jobs where questions are asked and answer.
Oh, we all want this job  |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Did you see the Dave's ad that said PhDs preferred? I think it's going to be hard for MAs to get in. Of course, there are BAs working there (quite a few), but they got in before standards were raised. Now you have to have an MA to even apply, and with your MA you will be competing against many, many others. This is too bad because I want the Hongik job too, but getting it is unlikely. I assume with each passing semester, getting in will become more difficult. I'm surprised Hongik didn't worsen their working conditions yet. Everyone is telling me it's such a great place to work. You can have complete control and freedom over what you teach.
Here's how to apply, guys:
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=57332
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| lol at PhD preferred for a monkey esl "professor" position. |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Is the university still enforcing the 2-year contract plus possibility of only one renewal for a max. total of 4 years? I've heard that there are some people who don't get renewed for the second 2-year contract but that most teachers get the second renewal. So is it still 4 years max, and then you'r out at Hongik?
They won't get Ph.D holders, at least not native English speaking ones. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| lol at PhD preferred for a monkey esl "professor" position. |
You having another day-off from being religious, Dodge7? I know, it's tough, all that "be compassionate and humble" crap. I can sympathize.
But a Sunday? |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| lol at PhD preferred for a monkey esl "professor" position. |
You having another day-off from being religious, Dodge7? I know, it's tough, all that "be compassionate and humble" crap. I can sympathize.
But a Sunday? |
Last I checked you were unsaved and hell awaits you upon your dying breath. Don't need any advice from you. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| transmogrifier wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| lol at PhD preferred for a monkey esl "professor" position. |
You having another day-off from being religious, Dodge7? I know, it's tough, all that "be compassionate and humble" crap. I can sympathize.
But a Sunday? |
Last I checked you were unsaved and hell awaits you upon your dying breath. Don't need any advice from you. |
I don't believe I gave any advice. I just hope one day you will actually embrace all aspects of your religion (the be nice to others bits, mainly), rather than just those parts that allow you to act intolerant and condemn people who disagree with you to hell.
Maybe next Sunday, huh? |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: |
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They won't get Ph.D holders, at least not native English speaking ones. |
They won't, it's too easy for PhD's to get better ESL related jobs with higher pay. |
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| transmogrifier wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| lol at PhD preferred for a monkey esl "professor" position. |
You having another day-off from being religious, Dodge7? I know, it's tough, all that "be compassionate and humble" crap. I can sympathize.
But a Sunday? |
Last I checked you were unsaved and hell awaits you upon your dying breath. Don't need any advice from you. |
Can you please stop posting on these forums. No one likes you. Most of us hope you die in a fire, or your poor wife murders you with a rock or something. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Charlie Bourque wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| transmogrifier wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| lol at PhD preferred for a monkey esl "professor" position. |
You having another day-off from being religious, Dodge7? I know, it's tough, all that "be compassionate and humble" crap. I can sympathize.
But a Sunday? |
Last I checked you were unsaved and hell awaits you upon your dying breath. Don't need any advice from you. |
Can you please stop posting on these forums. No one likes you. Most of us hope you die in a fire, or your poor wife murders you with a rock or something. |
:'( anyone have a tissue?? |
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TIEPIE
Joined: 08 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| A PHD to make 3.9 million won a month? Brutal investment on that one. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Plenty of E2s making more than that with just a CELTA. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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Not only that but you also pay rent up to .5 million won monthly AND you live on campus.
So only 3-3.4 million after rent...and then there is tax so you are looking at under 3 million net for Seoul positions
Plus it's non-tenure track.
If I were a Ph.D holder I'd be looking for something else. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| The wages advertised are for MA's. If you have a PhD the wage is 500,000 to 1 million more a month. A lot of PhD's do actually apply, but not always related and a lot of them are passed over for people with MA's in a relevant field. Perhaps a CELTA on an E-2 could make more money per month, but probably not for a total of 90 or less working days a year, and only 4 hours a day when you are working. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Charlie Bourque wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| transmogrifier wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| lol at PhD preferred for a monkey esl "professor" position. |
You having another day-off from being religious, Dodge7? I know, it's tough, all that "be compassionate and humble" crap. I can sympathize.
But a Sunday? |
Last I checked you were unsaved and hell awaits you upon your dying breath. Don't need any advice from you. |
Can you please stop posting on these forums. No one likes you. Most of us hope you die in a fire, or your poor wife murders you with a rock or something. |
I don't hope any of that. I just hope one day he realises how hypocritical it is to be so outspokenly religious, yet at the same time act almost completely opposite to what you'd expect a Christian to be. |
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