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andrewchon
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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Accoding to my neighbour: Soldiers sometimes go to mountains for outdoor training, usually in section size. They are given food for 20 days, but because they are heavy, most of them are discarded. Eventually they get hungry and have to scrounge for food. Any lost dog found in their path is: food. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Pigs are much more intelligent thatn dogs.
Actuially dogs are not very bright. Why is eating a dog different than eating a pig or chicken?
The whole concept that dogs are some specail companion to people is a Western idea. Many places and cultures do not share this fantasy. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: stray dogs - fate in Korea? |
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I'm seriously wondering whether stray dogs - former family pets - commonly get eaten in Seoul, and whether ordinary Koreans care about this. Do not make this into an ethical debate! I'm just wondering about best recorded facts. |
The stray dogs in Indonesia get cleared out and eaten right away. I wish Thais would eat stray dogs too. Maybe they could be convinced that they might be tasty.
In Korea the answer is No, Koreans that eat dog only eat a special type of dog that is breed for eating. The same is true in Thailand and most likely in Taiwan and throughout Asia. They are black in color and only served at special dog eating restaurants. Most Koreans look down a little bit in disdain at people eating dogs. It's a brutal practice for anyone who has seen a dog being carried into a restaurant. I haven't but others I know have. |
I visited Lombok in Indonesia and stray dogs were everywhere. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| This thread is making me hungry. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
Pigs are much more intelligent thatn dogs.
Actuially dogs are not very bright. Why is eating a dog different than eating a pig or chicken?
The whole concept that dogs are some specail companion to people is a Western idea. Many places and cultures do not share this fantasy. |
Robots can potentially be programmed to be more intelligent than pigs. If the ideal material for making a highly intelligent robot happened to be a good protein source for humans, should we abstain from eating them?
Anyway, back to the original topic, do Koreans (unknowingly) eat former family pets? |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes they know they are eating a dog!! |
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DanseurVertical
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes they know they are eating a dog!! |
All dogs are former family pets? |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| most, I'd say 60-70% of my students have eaten dog, and those are only the ones who admitted it. Nasty. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Ethically it is different than eating cattle and sheep in my opinion. Dogs are intelligent and evolved and are raised and bred to be pets and farm help not eaten. |
In the West yes they are raised and bred to be pets and farm help. Not necessarily elsewhere. So no there is no ethical difference whatsoever...it's simply personal/cultural perspective. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Ethically it is different than eating cattle and sheep in my opinion. Dogs are intelligent and evolved and are raised and bred to be pets and farm help not eaten. |
In the West yes they are raised and bred to be pets and farm help. Not necessarily elsewhere. So no there is no ethical difference whatsoever...it's simply personal/cultural perspective. |
In your opinion.
Unless you're going to link us to Ethics for Dummies. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
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| Ethically it is different than eating cattle and sheep in my opinion. Dogs are intelligent and evolved and are raised and bred to be pets and farm help not eaten. |
In the West yes they are raised and bred to be pets and farm help. Not necessarily elsewhere. So no there is no ethical difference whatsoever...it's simply personal/cultural perspective. |
In your opinion.
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That's what I just said..."personal perspective"
It's a matter of opinion and not ethics |
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atwood
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| Ethically it is different than eating cattle and sheep in my opinion. Dogs are intelligent and evolved and are raised and bred to be pets and farm help not eaten. |
In the West yes they are raised and bred to be pets and farm help. Not necessarily elsewhere. So no there is no ethical difference whatsoever...it's simply personal/cultural perspective. |
In your opinion.
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That's what I just said..."personal perspective"
It's a matter of opinion and not ethics |
That it's a matter of opinion and not ethics is your opinion. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| Ethically it is different than eating cattle and sheep in my opinion. Dogs are intelligent and evolved and are raised and bred to be pets and farm help not eaten. |
In the West yes they are raised and bred to be pets and farm help. Not necessarily elsewhere. So no there is no ethical difference whatsoever...it's simply personal/cultural perspective. |
In your opinion.
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That's what I just said..."personal perspective"
It's a matter of opinion and not ethics |
That it's a matter of opinion and not ethics is your opinion. |
And that you think so is yours.
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| Ethically it is different than eating cattle and sheep in my opinion. Dogs are intelligent and evolved and are raised and bred to be pets and farm help not eaten. |
In the West yes they are raised and bred to be pets and farm help. Not necessarily elsewhere. So no there is no ethical difference whatsoever...it's simply personal/cultural perspective. |
In your opinion.
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That's what I just said..."personal perspective"
It's a matter of opinion and not ethics |
That it's a matter of opinion and not ethics is your opinion. |
And that you think so is yours.
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Obviously. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I'm glad we agree that it is a matter of opinion and not ethics...which is what I said in the first place. |
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