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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| dairyairy wrote: |
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I chose to live in Incheon, just like I chose to move to Brooklyn after spending a fortune on Manhattan rent. <<shrugs>> If I can get to a place in under an hour with public transport, it's close enough. Factor in the way cheaper rent and key money, and I'm a happy camper.
Seoul's cool, and has many things that I wish that Incheon had, but I'd rather not drop that kind of cash on an apartment. |
Incheon is the "Seoul area" plus you have easy access to Seoul. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
I chose to live in Incheon, just like I chose to move to Brooklyn after spending a fortune on Manhattan rent. <<shrugs>> If I can get to a place in under an hour with public transport, it's close enough. Factor in the way cheaper rent and key money, and I'm a happy camper.
Seoul's cool, and has many things that I wish that Incheon had, but I'd rather not drop that kind of cash on an apartment. |
Incheon is the "Seoul area" plus you have easy access to Seoul. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Incheon is not close to Seoul, connected by transportation that takes less than an hour each way, and has many of the same shopping options as Seoul? Neither is Ilsan, Suwon, Anyang, Ansan? |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Plenty of places are in the "Seoul area" but they still require an hour commute each way. I prefer being outside, yet close enough to go without too much hassle. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| 3DR wrote: |
| dairyairy wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
I chose to live in Incheon, just like I chose to move to Brooklyn after spending a fortune on Manhattan rent. <<shrugs>> If I can get to a place in under an hour with public transport, it's close enough. Factor in the way cheaper rent and key money, and I'm a happy camper.
Seoul's cool, and has many things that I wish that Incheon had, but I'd rather not drop that kind of cash on an apartment. |
Incheon is the "Seoul area" plus you have easy access to Seoul. |
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OK- no easy access to Seoul from Incheon? It's not considered part of the "Seoul area"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incheon
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| the city�s growth was assured in modern times with the development of its port due to its natural advantages as a coastal city and its proximity to the South Korean capital at Seoul. It is part of the Seoul National Capital Area, along with Seoul itself and Gyeonggi Province; as such, Incheon is the world's fourth-largest suburb by population |
Incheon is a direct neighbor of Seoul.
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Local service to Guro, Seoul, Cheongnyangni, Uijeongbu and Soyosan is offered by Seoul's subway Line 1. The line has 11 stations within Incheon and connects to the Incheon Subway at Bupyeong station.
Rapid service on the same line to Yongsan Station in Seoul depart from Dongincheon station and stops at major stations.
The Airport Express (AREX) line runs from Incheon International Airport to Seoul Station via Gimpo International Airport. The Incheon-Gimpo section was opened in March 2007 and was extended to Seoul station in December 2010. Passengers can choose a high-speed service stopping only at Incheon airport and Seoul, which takes 43 minutes but departs only every half-hour; or the all-station service which takes 53 minutes but leaves every six minutes.
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Need more proof? Ride it sometime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pZwFTqq4no |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
| Incheon is not close to Seoul, connected by transportation that takes less than an hour each way, and has many of the same shopping options as Seoul? Neither is Ilsan, Suwon, Anyang, Ansan? |
Incheon is a very spread out city and it does not take less than an hour for most people.
People always say these types of things, but don't realize that yea, Incheon may be connected to Seoul by subway, but Seoul is not some big blob where everyone is going to one place. I may wanna go to Gangnam from where i live in Incheon. It would be an hour and a half to 2 hours depending on if I take the subway or bus, and if there is traffic or not.
I used to live next to Bucheon when I lived in Incheon 2 years ago and I could take a bus to Hongdae in 35 minutes if there was no traffic.
This year, I live near Incheon City Hall, and it could take anywhere from an hour, to an hour and a half.
My friends who live in Daejeon could get there quicker by taking the KTX and transferring on the airport line.
I like Incheon. When I lived in Suwon, I would go to Seoul every weekend. Where I live now in Incheon is great. CGV, subway stop, homeplus, TGI Fridays, etc are a 5 minute walk away, and Bupyeong is a good replacement for Hongdae or Itaewon is I don't feel like trekking out that way. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Plenty of places are in the "Seoul area" but they still require an hour commute each way. I prefer being outside, yet close enough to go without too much hassle. |
My point was that living in the Seoul area is better than living out in the rural areas. But, for some reason, you and a few others are claiming that Incheon is not in the "Seoul area" , like it's on Mars. Reality says otherwise, but keep being a contrarian. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Indeed. I'm a short bus or even shorter taxi away from Art Center, and it has most of what I need. I go to Itaewon maybe once or twice a month now to meet up with friends in Seoul. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| 3DR wrote: |
| dairyairy wrote: |
| Incheon is not close to Seoul, connected by transportation that takes less than an hour each way, and has many of the same shopping options as Seoul? Neither is Ilsan, Suwon, Anyang, Ansan? |
Incheon is a very spread out city and it does not take less than an hour for most people.
People always say these types of things, but don't realize that yea, Incheon may be connected to Seoul by subway, but Seoul is not some big blob where everyone is going to one place. I may wanna go to Gangnam from where i live in Incheon. It would be an hour and a half to 2 hours depending on if I take the subway or bus, and if there is traffic or not.
I used to live next to Bucheon when I lived in Incheon 2 years ago and I could take a bus to Hongdae in 35 minutes if there was no traffic.
This year, I live near Incheon City Hall, and it could take anywhere from an hour, to an hour and a half.
My friends who live in Daejeon could get there quicker by taking the KTX and transferring on the airport line.
I like Incheon. When I lived in Suwon, I would go to Seoul every weekend. Where I live now in Incheon is great. CGV, subway stop, homeplus, TGI Fridays, etc are a 5 minute walk away, and Bupyeong is a good replacement for Hongdae or Itaewon is I don't feel like trekking out that way. |
Dongincheon Rapid to Yongsan is under one hour. That's easy access to and from Seoul. Then you go do whatever else you want, but the easy access is there. Other subway stops like Bupyeong are also on the #1 rapid line and take less time. You try to make it sound like Incheon is out in the woods somewhere. It's not. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
| 3DR wrote: |
| dairyairy wrote: |
| Incheon is not close to Seoul, connected by transportation that takes less than an hour each way, and has many of the same shopping options as Seoul? Neither is Ilsan, Suwon, Anyang, Ansan? |
Incheon is a very spread out city and it does not take less than an hour for most people.
People always say these types of things, but don't realize that yea, Incheon may be connected to Seoul by subway, but Seoul is not some big blob where everyone is going to one place. I may wanna go to Gangnam from where i live in Incheon. It would be an hour and a half to 2 hours depending on if I take the subway or bus, and if there is traffic or not.
I used to live next to Bucheon when I lived in Incheon 2 years ago and I could take a bus to Hongdae in 35 minutes if there was no traffic.
This year, I live near Incheon City Hall, and it could take anywhere from an hour, to an hour and a half.
My friends who live in Daejeon could get there quicker by taking the KTX and transferring on the airport line.
I like Incheon. When I lived in Suwon, I would go to Seoul every weekend. Where I live now in Incheon is great. CGV, subway stop, homeplus, TGI Fridays, etc are a 5 minute walk away, and Bupyeong is a good replacement for Hongdae or Itaewon is I don't feel like trekking out that way. |
Dongincheon Rapid to Yongsan is under one hour. That's easy access to and from Seoul. Then you go do whatever else you want, but the easy access is there. Other subway stops like Bupyeong are also on the #1 rapid line and take less time. You try to make it sound like Incheon is out in the woods somewhere. It's not. |
As I said, not everyone lives near Bupyeong. You do realize that there are several islands out in the sea where plenty of teachers go teach every year? I had a friend who had to take a ferry just to get to the mainland.
Every part of Incheon does not have "Easy access to Seoul" like you think.
Easier than being out in the sticks? Of course. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:00 am Post subject: |
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The essential flaw in "Cohiba's rule" is that it reflects its formulator's mindset & requirements, not everyone's.
Many westerners in Korea are quite happy living relatively far from Seoul. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
| 3DR wrote: |
| dairyairy wrote: |
| Incheon is not close to Seoul, connected by transportation that takes less than an hour each way, and has many of the same shopping options as Seoul? Neither is Ilsan, Suwon, Anyang, Ansan? |
Incheon is a very spread out city and it does not take less than an hour for most people.
People always say these types of things, but don't realize that yea, Incheon may be connected to Seoul by subway, but Seoul is not some big blob where everyone is going to one place. I may wanna go to Gangnam from where i live in Incheon. It would be an hour and a half to 2 hours depending on if I take the subway or bus, and if there is traffic or not.
I used to live next to Bucheon when I lived in Incheon 2 years ago and I could take a bus to Hongdae in 35 minutes if there was no traffic.
This year, I live near Incheon City Hall, and it could take anywhere from an hour, to an hour and a half.
My friends who live in Daejeon could get there quicker by taking the KTX and transferring on the airport line.
I like Incheon. When I lived in Suwon, I would go to Seoul every weekend. Where I live now in Incheon is great. CGV, subway stop, homeplus, TGI Fridays, etc are a 5 minute walk away, and Bupyeong is a good replacement for Hongdae or Itaewon is I don't feel like trekking out that way. |
Dongincheon Rapid to Yongsan is under one hour. That's easy access to and from Seoul. Then you go do whatever else you want, but the easy access is there. Other subway stops like Bupyeong are also on the #1 rapid line and take less time. You try to make it sound like Incheon is out in the woods somewhere. It's not. |
You're not taking into account the time it takes to get to the subway.
Door-to-door time is what matters. |
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everything-is-everything
Joined: 06 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
The essential flaw in "Cohiba's rule" is that it reflects its formulator's mindset & requirements, not everyone's.
A few westerners in Korea are quite happy living relatively far from Seoul. |
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Threequalseven
Joined: 08 May 2012
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:04 am Post subject: |
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I honestly don't understand this "Seoul is the best" mentality at all. To live in Seoul, for me, would mean living with the smell of car exhaust, cigarettes, and kimchi butts 24/7 along with the mind dulling headache of crammed subways and constant chatter everywhere. And for what? To live near Itaewon and Hongdae?! I'm having a laugh over here. The only thing I look forward to about going to Seoul is tacos, kebabs, and the few bars that have IPA on tap. Otherwise, not worth it. Whoever says that "the rest of the country is an uninhabitable wasteland" and that Seoul is so much better has pretty low standards. From what I can tell, most of Seoul is like most of Korea, and the parts that are different are still mediocre at best. It's like finding a Heineken in a cooler full of Cass and saying, "Wow, this cooler is amazing!" I find myself agreeing most with diver.
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The closer you HAVE TO (not prefer - that's different) live to Seoul to have fun, the more of a lightweight you are...
A real man (or woman) can have fun anywhere. If you have to go somewhere where the fun is provided, it's YOU that's boring. |
I'll take the ocean air, quiet waterfront, countless islands, and mountain in my backyard here in Apparentlynotasgoodasseoul, Jeollanam-do. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| everything-is-everything wrote: |
| schwa wrote: |
The essential flaw in "Cohiba's rule" is that it reflects its formulator's mindset & requirements, not everyone's.
A few westerners in Korea are quite happy living relatively far from Seoul. |
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Actually visit Busan and other large Korean cities and you should run into many expats who are quite happy there and would not want to live in Seoul. |
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