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I want to complain about "Star Trek into Darkness."
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was cool. Never realized how hardcore you trekkies are, my god. I consider myself a softcore trekkie, but I still liked the movie.
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was a bit worried there, glad you liked it. im trying to get my gf into it and was hoping this movie would do the trick.
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few people have mentioned enjoying the work of the actor who played Khan.

For me, he was the only problem with the move. Complete crap.Terrible, terrible over-acting.

But, I'm not a hard core Trekkie, so that could be why the rest of the move left me satisfied.
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augustine



Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México

PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
im trying to get my gf into it and was hoping this movie would do the trick.


lol, hm... your method of attracting a woman to you appears to be the same as mine, if I were trying to make a woman feel repulsed by me.

When I was growing up, my next door neighbors were huge Star Trek people. Their son was a couple years older than me and we'd hang out a lot and play video games and stuff. I'd say it took me until around the age of 12 to realize that they were just about the biggest group of freaks I'd probably ever come across. I don't even think I've met a Star Trek fan since the early years of HS. That's got to be a hush hush fetish once you decide you want to start engaging with the opposite sex.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh I thought it was pretty good, except for the bad guy.

The original Khan was great, loads of character and depth.

The new Khan is crap, no personality, all surface no depth, pretty boy silliness. Total fail.

Went home and watched the original Wrath of Khan, odd how they borrowed so much, but instead of Kirk going into the radiation room it was Spock this time. Is this cause JJ Abrams doesn't have an original idea in his head?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's TNG canon, but Cumberbatch would have probably made a better super-Borg type enemy. Not because his acting is bad or anything, it's just the whole ultra-human premise would have worked better there. I would imagine the TNG Borg arc probably has its roots in the Khan arc, actually. It wouldn't even need to be giant box Borg either, it could be an early times thing.

Or hell, even Q would have been a better fit for Cumberbatch's performance. He just has this whole impervious and calculating thing going on and I don't recall Khan being like that in Wrath of Khan.

jvalmer wrote:
I thought it was cool. Never realized how hardcore you trekkies are, my god. I consider myself a softcore trekkie, but I still liked the movie.


Same here more or less, but there are definitely some scenes that end up leaving lazy Trekkies like myself scratching our heads. I'm not even talking about science/space issues or anything, just read a breakdown of the cold open, that scene alone is full of silly little plot holes.

I also just felt like the story itself lacked convincing purpose, if they destroyed Vulcan in the first film of the reboot, the Klingons probably should have been more prominent in the second one, I figured Khan would be better suited playing puppet master and instigating a war.

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One thing I did like about the film is that I felt more comfortable with most of the new cast. I've seen the first movie on television a number of times, and I never felt like the actors had settled into their roles. Didn't seem to be the case this time for the cast.

I can't decide if I like Chris Pine as Kirk, though.
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez, even the original t.v. show was cheesy. this is not Shakespeare. Dear God!!

That plastic paper mache set on the original with all the blinking lights anything would be an improvement.
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was good enough considering it's the only Star Trek series out there, right now. Maybe you would have liked it more if you had seen it in 3-D or if Scotty had been battling zombies instead of getting drunk. YOU know what I'm talking about, DON'T you? Very Happy

BTW, old time Trekkies, didn't Khan kick Carol Marcus in the stomach? Wouldn't that possibly prevent her from eventually having David with Kirk? Just wondering why that was thrown in.
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a huge star trek fan, especially DS9. I don't ever plan on seeing this. Maybe if it's on TV someday or something, but even then I'd probably rather not.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
Geez, even the original t.v. show was cheesy. this is not Shakespeare. Dear God!!

That plastic paper mache set on the original with all the blinking lights anything would be an improvement.


Hah! I think people forget this when slamming this movie, Star Trek was never exactly amazing stuff, it was just kind of fun to watch if you were into space crap. I mean things like this guide to fighting Capt. Kirk style should get the point across.

(the Wall of Destruction is particularly incredulous, and the Kirk Double Fist was a quintessential part of any Kirk smash-up)

dairyairy wrote:
BTW, old time Trekkies, didn't Khan kick Carol Marcus in the stomach?


I was under the impression he kicked her leg. Really, really hard.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the uptight fans, myself included, are probably people more reared on The Next Generation than The Original Series. It wasn't until TNG that you really started to get the puritan strain of Star Trek fans. I mean, an episode of TNG often involved people sitting around a conference table and a lab for 10-20 minutes an episode discussing the right and wrong of what was going on. Sometimes entire episodes were little more than debates taking place in various parts of the ship.

People whose favorite episodes are centered around debates on the sentience and human rights of androids, whether or not to use a weapon of mass destruction on the Borg, and the finer points of non-interference are not likely to be thrilled with latest incarnation of Star Trek. The issue with the torpedoes and whether or not to use them would have been an hour long episode on TNG, it was a 10 minute segue in the movie.
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