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GEPIK cutting more positions?

 
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:59 am    Post subject: GEPIK cutting more positions? Reply with quote

Has anyone heard anything about more positions being cut?
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maximmm



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm... the idea is to cut NETs, or what they now call GETs (the new title clarifies things, no?) altogether at some point in the very near future. So any cuts you may be hearing about now are not at all surprising.

After all NETs are cut, we'll be replaced by robots and many teachers that are unable to speak English well. Meanwhile, hagwon business will skyrocket. Good times are coming if you are in the private sector.

Of course, while hagwon owners will be making a bundle, NETs will actually make less than before because the market will be so over-flooded due to the public school cuts (the current rumor is that airfare will be cut from the employment packages next year).

Of course.... there is also the 'Korea lagging behind Japan by 10 years' scenario. In which case, public school jobs will not be cut in their entirety, but we'd still be looking at the continual deterioration of the job market for the next 10 years before the recovery.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maximmm wrote:
Ummm... the idea is to cut NETs, or what they now call GETs (the new title clarifies things, no?) altogether at some point in the very near future. So any cuts you may be hearing about now are not at all surprising.

After all NETs are cut, we'll be replaced by robots and many teachers that are unable to speak English well. Meanwhile, hagwon business will skyrocket. Good times are coming if you are in the private sector.

Of course, while hagwon owners will be making a bundle, NETs will actually make less than before because the market will be so over-flooded due to the public school cuts (the current rumor is that airfare will be cut from the employment packages next year).

Of course.... there is also the 'Korea lagging behind Japan by 10 years' scenario. In which case, public school jobs will not be cut in their entirety, but we'd still be looking at the continual deterioration of the job market for the next 10 years before the recovery.


Five years from now, we'll be saying eff Korea and onto China. Then after that, assuming an economic recovery, Koreans will be kicking themselves in the pants. Who laughs last?

Korea is not the same as Japan as their economy has been crap for the last 20 years. Korea is down due to not being able to export to America as much as before.
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Sister Ray



Joined: 25 Mar 2006
Location: Fukuoka

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:

Korea is not the same as Japan as their economy has been crap for the last 20 years.


The "crap" Japanese economy still dwarfs Korea's economy. Japan's economy is not fast growing, but it is still absolutely enormous.
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Airborne9



Joined: 01 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I gather, Funding is stable until next year. Possibly the Elem school positions funded through GPOE will get cut.
as for the schools that are being funded from City hall? Who knows? Probably in a next year or two those jobs will start to disappear
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chrisinkorea2011



Joined: 16 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I was told firsthand by someone high up is that the high schools are all being cut and some middle schools as well. It was a good run being here and making money but now its gonna screw over the schools because the korean teachers here who "teach" english (and I use that term VERY loosely) cant hack it. No if,ands, or buts about that. Ive worked public school for 4 years and every year the teachers (even the younger ones) are missing those key parts/points in their english. Not to mention that the books that the students learn from SUCK.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

High school and middle school (E2) positions will largely disappear (nationwide - not just EPIK or GEPIK) from the PS system.

Elementary school positions will remain for the foreseeable future.

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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisinkorea2011 wrote:
From what I was told firsthand by someone high up is that the high schools are all being cut and some middle schools as well. It was a good run being here and making money but now its gonna screw over the schools because the korean teachers here who "teach" english (and I use that term VERY loosely) cant hack it. No if,ands, or buts about that. Ive worked public school for 4 years and every year the teachers (even the younger ones) are missing those key parts/points in their english. Not to mention that the books that the students learn from SUCK.


I don't even understand why Koreans are trying to learn English in the first place. All these big corporations have English entrance exams but something like less than 5% of the employees actually use English on a daily basis. It just seems like it's all for show. The Japanese English fluency is lower than Korea and they get along just fine in the business sector.
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chrisinkorea2011



Joined: 16 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

optik404 wrote:
chrisinkorea2011 wrote:
From what I was told firsthand by someone high up is that the high schools are all being cut and some middle schools as well. It was a good run being here and making money but now its gonna screw over the schools because the korean teachers here who "teach" english (and I use that term VERY loosely) cant hack it. No if,ands, or buts about that. Ive worked public school for 4 years and every year the teachers (even the younger ones) are missing those key parts/points in their english. Not to mention that the books that the students learn from SUCK.


I don't even understand why Koreans are trying to learn English in the first place. All these big corporations have English entrance exams but something like less than 5% of the employees actually use English on a daily basis. It just seems like it's all for show. The Japanese English fluency is lower than Korea and they get along just fine in the business sector.


Well i mean considering that english is the universal language, I dont think it hurts to learn basic english at the very least. I know a couple Samsung guys who speak English and they said it helps them, as well as a president of a company who deals with the US military and he makes bank because of the contracts.
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DaeguKid



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have also heard that universities are changing their level of expectations for hiring. Hogwons don't count for jack anymore and the elemantary level is considered .7 years if you work there for one year.

A uni can hire you if you have 2 years experience with a masters and 4 with an undergrad.

Personally, I dont think that is cool. Hogwons are where a lot of teachers learn how to teach ESL. The EPIK program must be a joke, having to teach 40 kids at a time who are just not interested or a breeze for others.

For me, I got in at the right time, 2007, into a good uni gig. Good luck to the EPIK folks next year, looks like you will need it.
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wonkavite62



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: Jeollanamdo, South Korea.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:17 pm    Post subject: GEPIK Reply with quote

I remember trying to get a GEPIK job a few years ago, and it was like opening a can of worms. I was granted the visa, but at the last minute the school wanted EXTRA documents they knew I did not have. I decided to keep my job in the U.K.
In theory things should be more stable than they are. But after 2007, there was a frenzy of changes and new rules in the public schools. The govt. wanted many new teachers-oh no, oops-actually they didn't. It's like so many angels dancing on the head of a pin. Much vanity and vexation of spirit.
I recently started teaching in a high school ,and I've had some GOOD classes. But, honestly, I don't think the politicians know what they want.
In the future things could change again. And please DO keep an eye on China, and Japan, and the rest of Asia. There ARE SOME PLEASANT SURPRISES TOO.
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