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Hagwon Muppet
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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| Its also difficult to say whether the word of 1 or 2 former teachers is any more reliable than the director of the school. |
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butter808fly
Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: Northern California, USA
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject: hogwon and finding someone new? |
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| cdn wrote: |
Hi
Yeah I am in the same boat. I have no idea why my hogwon can't find someone new. They do waNt a female, but there are no saturdays and you work 25 or less hours per week.  |
Im trying to find a teaching position and wondered myself why they couldnt find someone for your school. Im sure the position is filled, but if they still have trouble finding ppl Id love to mail or email them my info. Please post if you have information. Thanx |
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canukteacher
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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My university has been advertising, and very few responses. Most of the responses are from out of country. Normally we would have 100+ responses. I have no idea what is going on.
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skindleshanks
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: |
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The job I left paid 2 million for 20 hours a week, including breaks. They hire BA's and pay fairly generously for overtime. One teacher works Saturdays and in my estimation teaches the equivalent of an ECC job plus a little. She averages over 4 mill a month.
Oh yeah, and you can take 2 weeks paid holiday whenever you want (pretty much), or a month unpaid.
I left it because I'm married and they only offered dorm rooms and housing in the area was expensive.
There are other jobs like that out there. What I wonder is why an intelligent teacher would re-sign at 80% of the hagwons out there? Seriously, Wonderland and ECC pay the same as a McJob in the States, and they work you a lot harder! |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:26 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you guys on your viewpoint that a teacher's opinion of the school is subjective and the only thing that is true and binding is the contract. No question about it.
But my gripe is the over-emphasis on the contract makes many teachers overlook the importance of asking informed questions to the director and talking to current and former teachers.
If one or two teachers say that the school is hell on earth and they are seeking letters of release, despite the contract looking very appealing, then that should send off warning bells in the prospective teacher's head. If not to turn it down, then at least to ask the director and/or recruiter more informed questions about the school and position to counter-balance the current teacher(s) opinions.
I have issue that the 'no split shifts', 'no Saturdays', 'nothing less than 2.0' advice mantras on here, resonate far louder than 'ask questions about the school, not just the job', or 'make sure you talk to current teachers and try for an email address or two of past teachers'. It would save a lot of grief to a lot of teachers if contract screening and school reference checks were promoted with equal vigor. |
Yes, I agree with that, but in respect to this particular thread? The original poster is wondering why their school doesn't have people applying to it. People gave the most obvious answers. If you're referring more to a board mentality, I can't disagree there.
I will say, though, that this is my first time doing the job search thang on my own (first time was through a random recruiter and second time was contacts-based), and the sheer number of recruiter posts on the job boards with lists that basically outline the above points leaves me dumbfounded. There's absolutely no way I am interested in some faceless job that's in a mix among the others, unless it happens to be in just the right location.
On the other hand, when I find a well-crafted advertisement with something unique about it, I fire off an email to establish interest and ask a few quick questions.
However, the vast majority of the schools are just nameless, faceless blobs on a recruiter's list. Ugh. |
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chinook
Joined: 17 Mar 2004
Location: canada
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
But my gripe is the over-emphasis on the contract makes many teachers overlook the importance of asking informed questions to the director and talking to current and former teachers.
I have issue that the 'no split shifts', 'no Saturdays', 'nothing less than 2.0' advice mantras on here, resonate far louder than 'ask questions about the school, not just the job', or 'make sure you talk to current teachers and try for an email address or two of past teachers'. It would save a lot of grief to a lot of teachers if contract screening and school reference checks were promoted with equal vigor. |
As someone who has just been looking for a job and reading these boards for advice, I have to say that the biggest mantra is actually the "ask for the email of a foreign teacher." not the "no saturdays, no split shifts, nothing less than 2.0". That's there as well, but the speak to the teachers is the strongest message i've gotten from reading the boards. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I have to say that the biggest mantra is actually the "ask for the email of a foreign teacher." not the "no saturdays, no split shifts, nothing less than 2.0". |
I agree. When i was looking this was the first thing I would ask for and also the accomodation I wanted to see.
The job might be great but who would want to live a year in a 6 pyeong basement which quite a few unlucky ones with tight directors have to put up with. Just ruins the year. |
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