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[KOREAN_MAN]

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[KOREAN_MAN]

Ginobili has a high basketball IQ??? Since when? I always thought of Ginobili as a stallion you cannot tame. He is not out of control but he is so wild on the court it's just fun to watch him play. (He made an impression on Charles Barkley.) He keeps making some of the craziest passes I've ever seen.

People argue whether he should be playing or not in the series. Well, The Spurs don't have a choice. Ginobili is the only guy who can really carry the ball for the Spurs other than Tony Parker. Gary Neal is not a true point guard and he can't run offense the same way. Ginobili doesn't have to score but he has to play big minutes unless you expect Tony Parker to play the whole game.

[Jyang486]

I think Koremenos from Grantland made a great point and why I think the Heat will take this series in either 6 or 7:

"Sixty-two percent. That is what Gary Neal and Danny Green are shooting combined from 3-point territory through the first four games of this series on 50 attempts. That is a staggering hot streak. It�s been a huge boost for the team, making up for the continued slide of Manu Ginobili and middling offensive performances from Tim Duncan, and (at least since Game 1) Tony Parker. This raises a question that nobody would have asked before the Finals began: What happens if Neal and Green stop making nearly everything they throw in the vicinity of the hoop?

With the way Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker have struggled to score at times, it�s hard to picture the Spurs winning two more times if Green and Neal aren�t knocking down shots like they have some kind of NBA Jam cheat code. The basic principles of statistics tell us that it�s unlikely those two can keep things going like this for much longer, but that�s the thing about variance, it�s hard to tell when exactly it�s going to strike. At some point in the future, Green and Neal will go back to shooting 3-pointers like normal human beings. Whether that happens in the next week or next season is anyone�s guess, yet there�s a good chance that whims of variance will decide San Antonio�s fate in this series."

If that number falls, then the Spurs fall with it, unless Ginobili has some kind of Dwayne Wade-esque reemergence.

[warmachinenkorea]

[augustine]

What an odd series of second half blowouts. And it's funny that Manu happened to have his best game of the season in game 5 after getting the start, he looked like a blast from the past. Just have to win one more!

[Jyang486]

the spurs continuing to make all those off balanced circus shots, and danny green shooting like the greatest 3 point shooter in nba history, is blowing my mind. but 5 games, even 7 games if it goes to 7, is a small sample size so it's certainly possible for this to continue. but, wth.

also lebron played so meh this game. so passive at the end of the third quarter, and much of the fourth when they needed him to keep them in it. whatevs..he does what he does. can't defend him, can't criticize him. he is what he is. the best player on the court when he plays his game, an average player when he doesn't.

[KOREAN_MAN]

If you can't put hands on MJ, be really physical with him, and crowd the paint with big men, Michael Jordan can definitely average 10 to 20 more points a game today if he wanted to. That's about 5 to 10 more shots made. Nothing short of impossible.

MJ had to get stronger because the bad boys in Detroit pushed him around, bullied Scottie Pippen, and the Pistons beat the Bulls three years in a row. The Bulls were considered soft compared to the Pistons. Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars weren't that physically strong. But the whole team's attitude was to be very physical, against anybody. That's why Karl Malone one time got mad and almost killed (I mean literally killed) Isiah Thomas by fouling him hard on the court.

Yes, MJ would exaggerate sometimes but he never lied. He always admitted that Joe Dumars played him very well defensively. The league changed the rules because after MJ retired the ratings were dropping. David Stern found out that the higher the scores, the higher the ratings. So he made the game faster-paced and easier to score.

I just watched Game 5. Miami's defense was just awful. I don't understand how they keep losing track of Spurs' three-point shooters. Their main concern seems to be defending Duncan, Tiago Splitter, Tony Parker, and Ginobili. Miami helped way too much. But why help??? They don't need to double-team or help anybody. Let Tony and Ginobili score 60 points. Guard Tim Duncan one-on-one as much as possible. All they have to do is stay with shooters like Danny Green.

Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, Mario Chalmers were all watching someone else and let their men run around and shoot open shots. Jeff van Gundy said that Miami's players are trying to do two, three things at the same time. Why not just do one thing right? All they have to do is chase guys like Danny Green, who is being unbelievable right now, and let Tony, Ginobili, and Duncan score 100 points all by themselves. When the Spurs are scoring two points instead of three, they can't beat the Heat.

LeBron James and Mario Chalmers played with no energy. They were just walking around the court like seniors. I hope Miami's role players play much better in Game 6. They'd better not expect LeBron to carry them.

[KOREAN_MAN]

LeBron's +/- in the Finals when he's in the game.

Game 1: -3
Game 2: +29
Game 3: -32
Game 4: +8
Game 5: -9
Total +/-: -7

No wonder the Heat looked better when he wasn't on the court.

[warmachinenkorea]

Miami did play like crap but give San Antonio credit. They did a great job of moving the ball. I only had a chance to watch the first half before my 2 week old son demanded my attention. I saw Norris Cole let Tony Parker put him on roller skates and absolutely abuse him. The 3's I saw weren't wide open but pretty contested. Miami shot the 3 better than San Antonio but SA made 60% from the field. The rebounds were almost even and SA had 5 more turnovers than Miami. When you make shots it's gonna be tough for the opposing team to beat you. Miami has got to find some fire. LBJ and Wade had 25 and Ray Allen had 21 but the guy that hurt Miami was Chalmers. He shot 20% had one assist and had two turnovers.

What would the series be like if SA wasn't shooting the 3 so well? Would it already be over?

[KOREAN_MAN]

Numbers show that a team has a better chance of winning if they take more 3s. I'm pretty sure the Spurs built their team around with that philosophy. You have to give the Spurs a lot of credit because their role players are making shots on the biggest stage.

But at the same time, Indiana also made a lot of three-pointers against the Heat and Indiana is not a three-point shooting team. To me, the Heat players pay too much attention to everyone. They should just stay in front of perimeter shooters and let the big three (Tony, Manu, and Duncan) beat them with two-point shots. Otherwise, the Spurs will win the series and Danny Green will be the Finals MVP as he should be. If somehow the Heat win, give it to Ray Allen. He deserves it.

[augustine]

Game 5 finally finished downloading for me so I'm losing sleep and watching it right now on my TV. I'm not sure what will happen in game 6 in Miami since the Heat usually bounce back strong after losing, and they're at home. I'm a little worried. I agree with Korean Man again, and I said it before, but the Spur role players have been playing so well and role players are always such a huge part of their system year after year. Bowen was a starter for years, yet he rarely scored. Neal and Green have been insane. I also think we're seeing Leonard emerge into one of the next super stars. He's 21, shoots very well from the 3, and is defending LeBron in the finals... just think about that for a second.

And what an interesting move from Pop to start Manu in Game 5. We've been talking about how horrible he's played in the playoffs (though he's been playing bad for months), but him going out there and playing his best game of the season? Who expected that?

[augustine]

Ugh, that made me feel sick.

[hogwonguy1979]

sooooo close, that game made me sick. I really wonder how SA comes back after that.

I never really question decisions by coach Popp but not putting Duncan in before that shot by Ray Allen was head scratching.

[bucheon bum]

[KOREAN_MAN]

What a game. I thought it was going to be a close game but that was unreal. If the Heat win Game 7, Ray Allen probably won't get the MVP but he saved the Heat's ass.