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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| JaySee wrote: |
| Some people here live very sad lives if they find joy criticizing people who attend a fun summer festival and have a good time. |
It's all about subjectivity. You might think it is a 'fun summer festival', but others see it quite differently. I'm just too old for that sheeit, but if you enjoy it, get on it and have fun! |
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Waygeek
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| JaySee wrote: |
| Some people here live very sad lives if they find joy criticizing people who attend a fun summer festival and have a good time. |
Nope. Have a good time. Nobody is saying otherwise. Until it negatively impacts on other peoples 'good time' (which is what G.I.'s do exclusively when off-base), then its a problem. Last year there were G.I.'s with water-guns full of mud that went outside the festival boundaries and started spraying Boryeang residents who weren't taking part in the festival, just out shopping etc. I'd love to say that that's the only thing they got up to but unfortunately that would be inaccurate. If you think that's cool...well... good for you... bro. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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| Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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The one neighborhood associated with foreigners is Itaewon. The big festival associated with foreigners is the Mudfest. Then we complain about not being taken seriously and having a bad image. Koreans do their fair share of crap too, but seriously could we at least try to have the neighborhood associated with us not be a weak version of Mos Eisley, and try to have our big festival be something not quite so hedonistic. You know, maybe, just maybe, charitable and cultural.
The Korea Times may be to blame for our "image", but this sure don't help. |
If Itaewon is so bad, why is it the new hot hangout for Koreans? In any event, the fact that it was a foreigner hangout is what gave it it's reputation. Up until 2-3 years ago almost every Korean I met told me how dirty and scandalous Itaewon was yet almost all of them had never actually been there before. Anyway, I have to skip over 4-7 kimchi pizzas on the sidewalks on my 7 minute walk to work in the morning, I wake up often to screaming Koreans both inside and outside my building all with clanging soju bottles in tow, and there is a filthy red light district just 1.5 blocks from my front door (and across the street from my school's back gate). And this isn't even a party district. So, really, who is giving a bad image? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| Waygeek wrote: |
Let's be honest by 'bros' we mean 'G.I.'s'; and yes they are a cancer.
But my experience at mudfest last year was very good. I had little contact with G.I.'s, that's probably why. Get into a good crowd and there's a lot of fun to be had. |
Lets be honest for real..by "Bro" we do not mean GI. There are plenty of "bros" in the male FT teaching community... |
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toby99
Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Waygeek wrote: |
Let's be honest by 'bros' we mean 'G.I.'s'; and yes they are a cancer.
But my experience at mudfest last year was very good. I had little contact with G.I.'s, that's probably why. Get into a good crowd and there's a lot of fun to be had. |
Lets be honest for real..by "Bro" we do not mean GI. There are plenty of "bros" in the male FT teaching community... |
My view on Mudfest is that it's a nice chance to get out of the city and enjoy something unique in Korea. Have a few beers, socialize, enjoy summer. Haven't run into too many drunken GIs, but the unfortunate reality is that they are gonna cause a mess regardless of where they are. Some of them are pretty nice, decent guys, while others should probably enter treatment for alcoholism. In the end not at that different from members of the ESL teaching community, as Patrick correctly points out.
Main point: Everyone should visit Mudfest once during their tours; it's almost a rite of passage. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Newbies assume that it's mandatory to go and view it as the essential part of their Korean experience. Many hear this from their recruiters. Some recruiters even sell packages to go. It's all over the web and facebook.
One newbie I met a few years ago said that his recruiter guaranteed he would get laid and when he showed up for the bus he was wondering where were all of those hot babes he was promised. All of the women were 40+ and looking to score and score they did. He had many stories of getting things grabbed by other dudes who kept saying that with all of the mud they couldn't tell who was a man or a woman.
Note: It's never that muddy. Expect that if you want to get laid in the worst way possible that the mudfest will be your kind of place. You'll pay to get it in the worst way possible.  |
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toby99
Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
Newbies assume that it's mandatory to go and view it as the essential part of their Korean experience. Many hear this from their recruiters. Some recruiters even sell packages to go. It's all over the web and facebook.
One newbie I met a few years ago said that his recruiter guaranteed he would get laid and when he showed up for the bus he was wondering where were all of those hot babes he was promised. All of the women were 40+ and looking to score and score they did. He had many stories of getting things grabbed by other dudes who kept saying that with all of the mud they couldn't tell who was a man or a woman.
Note: It's never that muddy. Expect that if you want to get laid in the worst way possible that the mudfest will be your kind of place. You'll pay to get it in the worst way possible. |
To be fair to newbs, though, mudfest is one of the few things that runs strong within the expat community year after year. In that sense it is as close to part of the expat experience as anything else Korea has to offer. Sad but true. Whether it's actually any good or worthwhile, though, is another question and ultimately comes down to personal preference.
In my view recruiters are down there with food bloggers as people who cannot be trusted. I've also seen recruiters entice applicants into taking crappy jobs with the promise of getting laid at various locales. That alone speaks to the lack of professionalism often found in that racket. |
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itiswhatitis
Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| mudfest is for newbies, children and retards |
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markness
Joined: 02 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| itiswhatitis wrote: |
| mudfest is for newbies, children and retards |
Sounds like a good time to me! |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:19 am Post subject: |
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30 is the new 18.
I think anyone should realize that 20-something is not an adult in this day and age. At least, very rarely an adult.
If the young-ins want to go to a beach, drink too much, wear next to nothing, hook up, and act stupid: go ahead. Don't begrudge the Youth the benefit of being youthful.
From the ages of 16-27 I was doing the same. I realize now how often time I was loud and annoying (not a complete "Bro", but partially!), but what the heck, life goes on. All you can do is enjoy the memories, be patient with the new kids doing it, and hope your daughters never, EVER, bring home someone like that.  |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:28 am Post subject: |
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30 is the new 18.
I think anyone should realize that 20-something is not an adult in this day and age. At least, very rarely an adult.
If the young-ins want to go to a beach, drink too much, wear next to nothing, hook up, and act stupid: go ahead. Don't begrudge the Youth the benefit of being youthful.
From the ages of 16-27 I was doing the same. I realize now how often time I was loud and annoying (not a complete "Bro", but partially!), but what the heck, life goes on. All you can do is enjoy the memories, be patient with the new kids doing it, and hope your daughters never, EVER, bring home someone like that. |
Great post! I settled down at around 27 as well, as did many of my friends. I didn't truly feel like an adult until then. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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30 is the new 18.
I think anyone should realize that 20-something is not an adult in this day and age. At least, very rarely an adult.
If the young-ins want to go to a beach, drink too much, wear next to nothing, hook up, and act stupid: go ahead. Don't begrudge the Youth the benefit of being youthful.
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Fine, but then they shouldn't whine about the image they create and how people dismiss them. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| It used to be tame, then foreigners co-opted it and turned it into Spring Break Korea. |
I've said it before and I'll say it again, for certain foreign teachers of English in Korea, college never ended. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Newbie wrote: |
30 is the new 18.
I think anyone should realize that 20-something is not an adult in this day and age. At least, very rarely an adult.
If the young-ins want to go to a beach, drink too much, wear next to nothing, hook up, and act stupid: go ahead. Don't begrudge the Youth the benefit of being youthful.
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Fine, but then they shouldn't whine about the image they create and how people dismiss them. |
quite right! but it seldom works out that way... |
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javis
Joined: 28 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
The one neighborhood associated with foreigners is Itaewon. The big festival associated with foreigners is the Mudfest. Then we complain about not being taken seriously and having a bad image. Koreans do their fair share of crap too, but seriously could we at least try to have the neighborhood associated with us not be a weak version of Mos Eisley, and try to have our big festival be something not quite so hedonistic. You know, maybe, just maybe, charitable and cultural.
The Korea Times may be to blame for our "image", but this sure don't help. |
If Itaewon is so bad, why is it the new hot hangout for Koreans? In any event, the fact that it was a foreigner hangout is what gave it it's reputation. Up until 2-3 years ago almost every Korean I met told me how dirty and scandalous Itaewon was yet almost all of them had never actually been there before. Anyway, I have to skip over 4-7 kimchi pizzas on the sidewalks on my 7 minute walk to work in the morning, I wake up often to screaming Koreans both inside and outside my building all with clanging soju bottles in tow, and there is a filthy red light district just 1.5 blocks from my front door (and across the street from my school's back gate). And this isn't even a party district. So, really, who is giving a bad image? |
I'm not sure what the Korean equivalent of "becoming white-washed" is, but the Itaewon of today has undergone a process in which it lost what made it unique and now it barely resembles the Itaewon of ten years ago. Nearly all of the business owners are Korean now and they cater to Koreans.
Anyway, on the topic of the mudfest, I would call it overrated. I made a day trip there last year, and I the mud was confined to a tiny area that you had to pay an exorbitant fee and wait in line to get into. My friends and I opted to just go play on the beach. The highlight was watching a drunk Australian guy repeatedly climb onto a buoy marking the edge of the swimming area and taunt a policeman on a jet ski. |
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