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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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30 is the new 18.
I think anyone should realize that 20-something is not an adult in this day and age. At least, very rarely an adult.
If the young-ins want to go to a beach, drink too much, wear next to nothing, hook up, and act stupid: go ahead. Don't begrudge the Youth the benefit of being youthful.
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Fine, but then they shouldn't whine about the image they create and how people dismiss them. |
quite right! but it seldom works out that way... |
I dunno guys.... if the "image" was just that too many young teachers are loud, heavy drinkers, and immature, AND people complained about that image yet partake in events like Mudfest or act that way on a regular basis, than I'd say you have a point.
But unfortunately, the image out there (not that I think it's held by most or even many Koreans) is that English teachers are all of that PLUS unemployable, paedophiles, rapists, and womanizers taking advantage of poor helpless Korean women. And for that, people have a legitimate complaint. I don't see Korean women being dragged kicking and screaming to events like this. They seem all to0 happy to participate.
But for me, when I was in Korea, aged 23-27 and I would often times be drunk (never too loud or abrasive, but it would happen from time to time) and then I hear Koreans generalize about English teachers being drunks, I'd think, "Yep, you're right. Most of us are here just for a good time. We're the kind of people who finished university, but weren't quite ready to grow up, so Korea seemed like a good way to maintain the young, irresponsible lifestyle. Maybe you should start hiring older, more qualified people" So those generalizations never bugged me too much. It's when the generalizations beyond that, then I was annoyed annoyed. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:35 am Post subject: Re: What is the big deal about mudfest? |
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| Been here for 4 years and never had an interest to go. |
I never saw the big deal in it either. 
I lived a pidly 35 kilometers from Boryeong and never even thought twice about going. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| When is mudfest this year? |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Newbie wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Newbie wrote: |
30 is the new 18.
I think anyone should realize that 20-something is not an adult in this day and age. At least, very rarely an adult.
If the young-ins want to go to a beach, drink too much, wear next to nothing, hook up, and act stupid: go ahead. Don't begrudge the Youth the benefit of being youthful.
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Fine, but then they shouldn't whine about the image they create and how people dismiss them. |
quite right! but it seldom works out that way... |
I dunno guys.... if the "image" was just that too many young teachers are loud, heavy drinkers, and immature, AND people complained about that image yet partake in events like Mudfest or act that way on a regular basis, than I'd say you have a point.
But unfortunately, the image out there (not that I think it's held by most or even many Koreans) is that English teachers are all of that PLUS unemployable, paedophiles, rapists, and womanizers taking advantage of poor helpless Korean women. And for that, people have a legitimate complaint. I don't see Korean women being dragged kicking and screaming to events like this. They seem all to0 happy to participate.
But for me, when I was in Korea, aged 23-27 and I would often times be drunk (never too loud or abrasive, but it would happen from time to time) and then I hear Koreans generalize about English teachers being drunks, I'd think, "Yep, you're right. Most of us are here just for a good time. We're the kind of people who finished university, but weren't quite ready to grow up, so Korea seemed like a good way to maintain the young, irresponsible lifestyle. Maybe you should start hiring older, more qualified people" So those generalizations never bugged me too much. It's when the generalizations beyond that, then I was annoyed annoyed. |
Isn't it funny how Koreans complain about these kind of foriegners but then jump over backwards to hire them because they want a youthful appearance? Kind of serves them right doesn't it? I don't care too much myself. But, the striking contradictions are right there in front of you.
Now someone said the only women there are over 40? Really? I hadn't seen it when I went years ago. I've never heard of it. Are they at least sort of hot, then? Ha ha. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Over 40 women? Hmm, a festival full of cougars and floppies... |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| Now someone said the only women there are over 40? Really? I hadn't seen it when I went years ago. I've never heard of it. Are they at least sort of hot, then? Ha ha. |
It wasn't every women at mudfest; it was a group of women on one bus. On the way down there the dudes looked at them as "you gotta be crazy" but after a few beers they must have started looking good because they got all the action they wanted. Dudes were chasing them all around the mudfest all weekend. One older woman had some young dude that wanted to "stay in touch" and she had to give him the "What happens at mudfest stays at mudfest" speech.
This is probably making some of you change your minds about not going. Giggity, giggity, women over 40 flopping around in the mud. Allllright. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| I've worked nightlife in Seoul for almost 10 years so I've seen a lot, but when I saw guys puking, pissing, and washing mud off themselves in restaurants' fish tanks in '09 I drew the line and decided not to return. I know there's still fun to be had there, but think I've just outgrown it. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
| I've worked nightlife in Seoul for almost 10 years so I've seen a lot, but when I saw guys puking, pissing, and washing mud off themselves in restaurants' fish tanks in '09 I drew the line and decided not to return. I know there's still fun to be had there, but think I've just outgrown it. |
I went for three years several years back when it was new, and it was good in its early days. Haven't been in the last three years now, so like anything else that becomes an "annual staple" for entertainment, it is growing and developing habits of its own that are both bad and good. I enjoyed it back then, but as seoulsucker said, I probably have outgrown it too. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| We went a couple of years ago. It was fun, but it wasn't without its annoyances. I can't decide which was worse: the creepy Korean photographers or the 20-something foreigners who behaved like high schoolers getting drunk for the first time. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| BTW, how much are some of you paying to go there and stay for the weekend? |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| We went a couple of years ago. It was fun, but it wasn't without its annoyances. I can't decide which was worse: the creepy Korean photographers or the 20-something foreigners who behaved like high schoolers getting drunk for the first time. |
here is a little of the hypocrisy about the photo stuff, you as a foreigner can get into big trouble taking random shots of korean women (or koreans in general) without their permission, we've seen that with the upskirt pics some foreign guy did recently (yeah really bad) and the hassles some people have gotten taking pics at the recent mannam events, but its perfectly ok for korean photographers to do the same stuff at mudfest.
20 something foreigners acting high school drunks happens every weekend here in hbc so that isn't news |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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20 something foreigners acting high school drunks happens every weekend here in hbc so that isn't news |
As if that makes the behavior any less inappropriate or pathetic. |
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vaticanhotline
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: in the most decent sometimes sun
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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here is a little of the hypocrisy about the photo stuff, you as a foreigner can get into big trouble taking random shots of korean women (or koreans in general) without their permission, we've seen that with the upskirt pics some foreign guy did recently (yeah really bad) and the hassles some people have gotten taking pics at the recent mannam events, but its perfectly ok for korean photographers to do the same stuff at mudfest.
20 something foreigners acting high school drunks happens every weekend here in hbc so that isn't news |
You're equating apples and oranges here. In no way whatsoever is taking pervy upskirt pictures in a subway station the same as taking pictures of drunk people rolling around in mud at a festival. People expect there to be cameras at a festival, for one thing. Especially in Korea, where every single thing of any kind of significance (and quite a few things of no significance whatsoever) is photographed.
Mannam is a front for a cult called shinchonji. Everybody and their mother should know this by now. They don't want photos taken of their events because they want to manage their image carefully. |
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dharma bum
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with you about those examples, vaticanhotline, but some men from South Asia were arrested by police a few years back for taking pictures of women at Haeundae. This happened about the same time as a bunch of photos of the Mud Festival showed up in Korean newspapers, and people started to ask what the difference was. I don't know how I feel about it either way, but just wanted to clarify where that post was probably coming from. |
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