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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Living on University Campus Reply with quote

I am in China and they have some silly rules about living on campus:

1) They don't allow teachers back on campus after 11pm.
2) They chain lock the buildings the teachers and students live in.
3) They regularly knock on your door instead of calling you ahead of time and expect you to answer the door immediately or else they continue knocking and if impatient they open your room regardless what you are doing. (Yea, I know that is a long sentence. I just wanted to get all that in.)
4) Instead of talking with a manager or head English teacher, you have to ping pong between the international department, your recruiter, or English department just to get simple things done (computer monitor fixed in your room or classroom, schedule issues, copies).

Is this the same in Korea? I hear how dreamy it is to work at a college, but I don't like the idea of being locked out of the campus or treated like a prisoner in my room. Feels worse, they don't even allow conjugal visits. At least you get those in prison.
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robbie_davies



Joined: 16 Jun 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Living on University Campus Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
I am in China and they have some silly rules about living on campus:

1) They don't allow teachers back on campus after 11pm.
2) They chain lock the buildings the teachers and students live in.
3) They regularly knock on your door instead of calling you ahead of time and expect you to answer the door immediately or else they continue knocking and if impatient they open your room regardless what you are doing. (Yea, I know that is a long sentence. I just wanted to get all that in.)
4) Instead of talking with a manager or head English teacher, you have to ping pong between the international department, your recruiter, or English department just to get simple things done (computer monitor fixed in your room or classroom, schedule issues, copies).

Is this the same in Korea? I hear how dreamy it is to work at a college, but I don't like the idea of being locked out of the campus or treated like a prisoner in my room. Feels worse, they don't even allow conjugal visits. At least you get those in prison.


Sucks to be in your position but not every university campus in China is like that, you need to qualify your statement a bit more clearly and accurately. Let me help you:

'I am in China and the university I am working at has some silly rules about living on campus'

That's better.

I have never had those problems, not saying they don't exist though.
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'I am in China and the university I am working at has some silly rules about living on campus'


No, I am not at a university now. I am commenting on MANY of the university offers that have these rules. I am not stating all are like it, but enough to make this observation and recruiters that support this.

If you are in China, reading this, and don't have the same issue, then where are you at? I am not asking specific school names, just which city are you in?
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robbie_davies



Joined: 16 Jun 2013

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
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'I am in China and the university I am working at has some silly rules about living on campus'


No, I am not at a university now. I am commenting on MANY of the university offers that have these rules. I am not stating all are like it, but enough to make this observation and recruiters that support this.

If you are in China, reading this, and don't have the same issue, then where are you at? I am not asking specific school names, just which city are you in?


I was in Henan and Jiangsu, none of the universities I worked for had it, they were pretty liberal about who was allowed in and out, overnight stays etc. I know there is a lot of what you had to contend with going on though which isn't very nice. When that is the case, off campus housing surely is the answer and then you are not as the whim of some party hack with dubious views about laowai.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some universities in Korea like this, but at every one I've heard of, the foreign faculty protested until they changed the rules (I don't mean they actually staged a protest, but for example, at one school in Seoul, they pounded on the windows at night when they wanted to get in, wrote letters, accosted higher-up in the halls, etc.)
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cabeza



Joined: 29 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of Korean universities where the foreign staff had to share the same dormitory building with the students. As well as not being allowed visitors of the opposite sex and having a curfew.
And when i say "heard" I mean read. On this site.
The place I work at has off campus accomodation. However the university staff have been known to enter apartments without notice. On one occasion when one of the teachers was asleep in bed Laughing
The concept of private space isn't always understood here.
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teachyou1004



Joined: 29 Jun 2011
Location: SF Bay Area

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had a problem. Just know whose window you can knock on to let you in after hours.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My university tried that several years ago when it decided to double the number of foreigners on staff in my department. It had no spare apartments for them, so they were made to stay at the dorm. It didn't last long. They vastly ignored the curfew (10pm, and some had classes that ended at 9:30!). Needless to say, they got into many arguments with the security guard who refused to grant them entry, especially when they went out for a few drinks after work. Administration finally clued in that if they wanted to live like monks, that's what they'd have become instead of becoming teachers. Now, they just offer a housing allowance when they run out of spare apartments.
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